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    Does, ‘black’ mean critical mortal threat to a police officer?
    A heavy dose of soul searching coming up. Do the right thing.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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  • #2
    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    Does, ‘black’ mean critical mortal threat to a police officer?
    A heavy dose of soul searching coming up. Do the right thing.
    A gated apartment block. Her key did not open the door. Solution - draw your weapon and shoot the occupant who answers the door. Very strange.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
    “not all there” - you know who you are

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    • #3
      Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
      A gated apartment block. Her key did not open the door. Solution - draw your weapon and shoot the occupant who answers the door. Very strange.
      High probability that she had been drinking methinks.
      “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
      “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
      “not all there” - you know who you are

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      • #4
        BTW, as a rule, guns and alcohol are not a good combination. Do police officers drink while armed - off duty?
        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
        “not all there” - you know who you are

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        • #5
          Very bad if a sober and sane police officer has done this.
          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
          “not all there” - you know who you are

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          • #6
            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            Does, ‘black’ mean critical mortal threat to a police officer?
            A heavy dose of soul searching coming up. Do the right thing.
            Isolated incident that had nothing to do with her being a cop.
            That's what
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            • #7
              She's on a one-way track to a manslaughter charge. I can't imagine any jury case that wouldn't end up with a conviction.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                A heavy dose of soul searching coming up.
                Would that you would actually do such a thing.

                Would you mind finding someone who actually defends her actions before you start in on the sanctimony?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  A gated apartment block. Her key did not open the door. Solution - draw your weapon and shoot the occupant who answers the door. Very strange.
                  Where is this part from? In the articles I looked up about it, all I find is the fairly vague statement that the officer accidentally entered the wrong apartment and then subsequently shot him. The implication I took was that she opened the door on her own (was it unlocked?) and then shot Botham subsequently, not that Botham opened the door and was shot. Could you provide the source for this? Because the sources I've found are fairly vague and do not include the information you post here.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    Would that you would actually do such a thing.

                    Would you mind finding someone who actually defends her actions before you start in on the sanctimony?
                    This is clearly a tragic accident. She called it in straight away. There was no law enforcement issue except what she imagined and no malice. So, you look at the circumstances; fatigue and what other things made this possible. An accident investigation approach is needed or else you end up failing to fix the underlying problem. Maybe her actions are defensible when the context is understood.
                    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                    “not all there” - you know who you are

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                    • #11
                      The investigation is being handled by the Texas Rangers. This often happens when it's likely that the officer-involved shooting is not considered "righteous", and a prosecution will ensue.

                      After initially seeking a manslaughter warrant for the off-duty Dallas Police Department officer who shot and killed Botham Shem Jean after she entered Jean's apartment, believing it was her own, DPD backed off, Dallas Police Chief U. Renee Hall said early Saturday afternoon.

                      "We were in the process of obtaining a warrant for the officer when we called the Texas Rangers in," Hall said. "We have since turned that investigation over to the Texas Rangers because we truly want to be transparent."

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                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        What is the controversy? Who is defending this?
                        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                          Where is this part from? In the articles I looked up about it, all I find is the fairly vague statement that the officer accidentally entered the wrong apartment and then subsequently shot him. The implication I took was that she opened the door on her own (was it unlocked?) and then shot Botham subsequently, not that Botham opened the door and was shot. Could you provide the source for this? Because the sources I've found are fairly vague and do not include the information you post here.
                          Story on Heavy.com by Jessica McBride quoting Steve Eagar from Fox 4 News who apparently got it from Dallas police. It seems odd that she would enter the apartment and not notice that she was in the wrong one.
                          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                          “not all there” - you know who you are

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                            What is the controversy? Who is defending this?
                            The controversial part is where do the faults lie. I doubt if it’s 100% on her.
                            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                            “not all there” - you know who you are

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              The controversial part is where do the faults lie. I doubt if it’s 100% on her.
                              And who, exactly, are you implicating besides herself?
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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