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    Botham Shem Jean

    Does, ‘black’ mean critical mortal threat to a police officer?
    A heavy dose of soul searching coming up. Do the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Does, ‘black’ mean critical mortal threat to a police officer?
    A heavy dose of soul searching coming up. Do the right thing.
    A gated apartment block. Her key did not open the door. Solution - draw your weapon and shoot the occupant who answers the door. Very strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    A gated apartment block. Her key did not open the door. Solution - draw your weapon and shoot the occupant who answers the door. Very strange.
    High probability that she had been drinking methinks.
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    BTW, as a rule, guns and alcohol are not a good combination. Do police officers drink while armed - off duty?
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    Very bad if a sober and sane police officer has done this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    Does, ‘black’ mean critical mortal threat to a police officer?
    A heavy dose of soul searching coming up. Do the right thing.
    Isolated incident that had nothing to do with her being a cop.


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    She's on a one-way track to a manslaughter charge. I can't imagine any jury case that wouldn't end up with a conviction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    A heavy dose of soul searching coming up.
    Would that you would actually do such a thing.

    Would you mind finding someone who actually defends her actions before you start in on the sanctimony?
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    A gated apartment block. Her key did not open the door. Solution - draw your weapon and shoot the occupant who answers the door. Very strange.
    Where is this part from? In the articles I looked up about it, all I find is the fairly vague statement that the officer accidentally entered the wrong apartment and then subsequently shot him. The implication I took was that she opened the door on her own (was it unlocked?) and then shot Botham subsequently, not that Botham opened the door and was shot. Could you provide the source for this? Because the sources I've found are fairly vague and do not include the information you post here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Would that you would actually do such a thing.

    Would you mind finding someone who actually defends her actions before you start in on the sanctimony?
    This is clearly a tragic accident. She called it in straight away. There was no law enforcement issue except what she imagined and no malice. So, you look at the circumstances; fatigue and what other things made this possible. An accident investigation approach is needed or else you end up failing to fix the underlying problem. Maybe her actions are defensible when the context is understood.
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    “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” ― Anne Lamott
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