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  • George Papadopoulos Sentenced To 14 Days in Prison

    Source: Trump Campaign Adviser George Papadopoulos Sentenced to 14 Days in Jail

    George Papadopoulos, the Trump campaign adviser who triggered the Russia investigation, was sentenced to 14 days in prison after pleading guilty to one count of making false statements to the FBI.

    Further, Papadopoulos was sentenced to 12 months of supervised release and 200 hours of community service. The 31-year-old was also ordered to pay a $9,500 fine.

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    A slap on the wrist for a "crime" that was only committed because Dirty Cop Mueller was using every dirty trick in the book to squeeze him for information.

    Oh, and remember how the liberals were crowing about Papa being a "cooperating witness" who would give up the goods on Trump?

    Yeah, about that:

    Source: Trump Campaign Adviser George Papadopoulos Sentenced to 14 Days in Jail

    Even after his arrest and plea agreement last year, prosecutors say Papadopoulos continued to be difficult with investigators, only providing information after being confronted with documents such as emails and text messages. Overall, they say Papadopoulos did not provide “substantial assistance.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-days-in-jail/

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    And despite everything, 14-days is only a tiny fraction of the six-months Mueller was pushing for. Interesting, huh? That had to be humiliating for Mueller. It's just too bad the judge didn't throw the whole thing out



    Meanwhile, at Dirty Bob's Diner:

    "What's on the menu today, Bob?"
    "The usual: nothing burgers."
    "You make the best nothing burgers, Bob."

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    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

  • #2
    So let's recap:
    Nobody Special Counsel Mueller has charged has ever been found "not guilty" by a court on any charge brought

    Of the 33 people so far indicted, 9 have so far pleaded guilty or been found guilty by a court, with the remaining trials outstanding.

    Trump has had:
    - His campaign chairman found guilty
    - His long-time personal lawyer pleading guilty and declaring in court that Trump instructed him to violate campaign finance laws
    - Three further people who worked on his campaign plead guilty
    - The first two Republican congressmen to endorse him also indicted (on unrelated issues)

    Let me also remind readers that since Nixon it has been typical for Republican administrations to be full of criminals:



    The rampant criminality of Trump and his associates is actually normal for Republicans. And for their current Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh to have been found to be a Nixon-esque operative who knowing received documents stolen by spies placed in the Democratic party, is normal wanton Republican criminality.

    Papadopoulos is a small-fry guy who couldn't decide whether to cooperate with Mueller or hold out for a pardon from Trump, and kept flipping back and forth. His indecision is getting him a slap on the wrist with a short stint in jail. But Mueller's moved on to the big fish. Trump's like a slowing boiling frog at this point, as all the people around him are gradually prosecuted and flip on him.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
      Of the 33 people so far indicted, 9 have so far pleaded guilty or been found guilty by a court, with the remaining trials outstanding.
      Of those 33, 25 are Russians, and we can hardly forget about the "Russian trolls" that Mueller indicted only to tell the judge "The dog ate my homework" when their lawyers showed up in court and asked to see the evidence.

      Of the others that have plead guilty, two are "process crimes" that only happened because Dirty Cop Mueller loves to punish his witnesses with perjury traps when they don't tell him what he wants to hear. Two are for crimes committed long before Trump even announced his candidacy. And the others are against people that have no connection whatsoever to Trump.

      As for Cohen, he was suckered into pleading guilty to something that isn't even a crime in exchange for a drastically reduced sentence.

      Then there's Junior's Trump Tower meeting. Somebody definitely needs to be charged for that only because it's looking more and more like the Hillary camp was conspiring with Russia to entrap Trump Jr!

      Source: Evidence Mounting of Trump Tower Collusion… Against Don Jr.

      Three Russian participants at the meeting have ties to the controversial Fusion GPS outfit, and two have confirmed ties to Hillary Clinton. The Russia collusion conspiracy was sparked by the dossier produced by Fusion GPS, which was paid for its anti-Trump work by Trump’s primary political opponents, namely Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) via the Perkins Coie law firm.

      Also, email logs brought to light show numerous emails were exchanged between a Clinton associate, Fusion GPS and Trump Tower participants, with the subjects of some of those emails listing the Magnitsky Act, which sanctions Russian officials and was by all accounts the very topic of the Trump Tower meeting.

      One Russian participant in the Trump Tower presentation admits to personally knowing Hillary Clinton since the late 1990s and says he “knew” some of the people who worked on Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

      Another Russian attendee, a translator, testified that he was previously an interpreter for Hillary herself as well as for John Kerry and Barack Obama.

      Questions are also raised by a timeline showing numerous personal meetings between Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson and Trump Tower participants. A Clinton associate, Ed Lieberman, was listed as being present at one and possibly two of those meetings.

      Separately, Lieberman met with one Russian participant the same day of the Trump Tower meeting, according to separate testimony.

      There are also questions about the initial setup of the Trump Tower meeting, with the publicist who sent the infamous email to Donald Trump Jr. promising “information that would incriminate” Clinton later admitting that he used deliberately hyperbolic language to ensure that the meeting took place. No such incriminating information on Hillary was provided, according to all meeting participants. In testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Robert Goldstone, the publicist, further said that he believes the meeting was a “bait and switch” by a Russian lobbyist seeking a meeting on another matter by misleadingly claiming to be bringing the Trump campaign dirt on Clinton.

      https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...gainst-don-jr/

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      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        the Hillary camp was conspiring with Russia to entrap Trump Jr!


        Do you have some sort of wheel-of-crazy you spin to generate these views?
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Of those 33, 25 are Russians, and we can hardly forget about the "Russian trolls" that Mueller indicted only to tell the judge "The dog ate my homework" when their lawyers showed up in court and asked to see the evidence.

          Of the others that have plead guilty, two are "process crimes" that only happened because Dirty Cop Mueller loves to punish his witnesses with perjury traps when they don't tell him what he wants to hear. Two are for crimes committed long before Trump even announced his candidacy. And the others are against people that have no connection whatsoever to Trump.

          As for Cohen, he was suckered into pleading guilty to something that isn't even a crime in exchange for a drastically reduced sentence.

          Then there's Junior's Trump Tower meeting. Somebody definitely needs to be charged for that only because it's looking more and more like the Hillary camp was conspiring with Russia to entrap Trump Jr!

          Source: Evidence Mounting of Trump Tower Collusion… Against Don Jr.

          Three Russian participants at the meeting have ties to the controversial Fusion GPS outfit, and two have confirmed ties to Hillary Clinton. The Russia collusion conspiracy was sparked by the dossier produced by Fusion GPS, which was paid for its anti-Trump work by Trump’s primary political opponents, namely Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) via the Perkins Coie law firm.

          Also, email logs brought to light show numerous emails were exchanged between a Clinton associate, Fusion GPS and Trump Tower participants, with the subjects of some of those emails listing the Magnitsky Act, which sanctions Russian officials and was by all accounts the very topic of the Trump Tower meeting.

          One Russian participant in the Trump Tower presentation admits to personally knowing Hillary Clinton since the late 1990s and says he “knew” some of the people who worked on Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

          Another Russian attendee, a translator, testified that he was previously an interpreter for Hillary herself as well as for John Kerry and Barack Obama.

          Questions are also raised by a timeline showing numerous personal meetings between Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson and Trump Tower participants. A Clinton associate, Ed Lieberman, was listed as being present at one and possibly two of those meetings.

          Separately, Lieberman met with one Russian participant the same day of the Trump Tower meeting, according to separate testimony.

          There are also questions about the initial setup of the Trump Tower meeting, with the publicist who sent the infamous email to Donald Trump Jr. promising “information that would incriminate” Clinton later admitting that he used deliberately hyperbolic language to ensure that the meeting took place. No such incriminating information on Hillary was provided, according to all meeting participants. In testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Robert Goldstone, the publicist, further said that he believes the meeting was a “bait and switch” by a Russian lobbyist seeking a meeting on another matter by misleadingly claiming to be bringing the Trump campaign dirt on Clinton.

          https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...gainst-don-jr/

          © Copyright Original Source



          It must be contagious. What with your paranoid conspiracy theories you are as deranged as Trump himself.
          “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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          • #6
            The previous two posts are a textbook example of the ad hominem fallacy.

            Thanks for playing, guys!
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              The previous two posts are a textbook example of the ad hominem fallacy.
              Not at all. It's merely an observation based upon the considerable evidence from the likes of Bob Woodward and many others that current and former aides call President Donald Trump an "idiot" and a "liar," disparaging his judgement and claiming that he is unfit to govern. When there is so much evidence from a large variety people in a position to know it behooves us to take it seriously.
              “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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              • #8
                Strange how you haven't touched a single fact in anything I've posted. I wonder why?
                Last edited by Mountain Man; 09-08-2018, 11:05 PM.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  a single fact in anything I've posted.

                  As if.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    And for their current Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh to have been found to be a Nixon-esque operative who knowing received documents stolen by spies placed in the Democratic party, is normal wanton Republican criminality.
                    This again? First, the documents were not really "stolen", as Manuel Miranda did not obtain them illegally; the Democrats goofed up and put them on a server that was shared between the Democrats and Republicans, so no hacking took place. Reading them was perhaps unethical, but not illegal. Second, and more importantly, there is (as far as I can tell) no actual proof Kavanaugh knew he was receiving information from "stolen" documents. Even the aforementioned Manuel Miranda, the guy who gave him the information, said that he didn't tell Kavanaugh where the information came from. Admittedly, Miranda could be lying to protect Kavanaugh, but given the absence of actual evidence Kavanaugh knew the information's source, the claim he "knowing[ly] received documents stolen by spies" (setting aside the fact there was nothing actually illegal about them being obtained, so "stolen" does not seem to be the proper word) is naught but supposition.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      Strange how you haven't touched a single fact in anything I've posted. I wonder why?
                      Conspiracy theories, paranoid inferences and anti Obama/Hillary narratives of the sort generated by the Trump-promoting media are largely fact free and designed to create negative impressions rather than provide facts. Real, actual "facts" are the enemy of charlatans like Trump and his associates.
                      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                      • #12
                        Prove it. Pick any one of the many sources I've referenced throughout this thread and prove your claim that they're "fact free".
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          Prove it. Pick any one of the many sources I've referenced throughout this thread and prove your claim that they're "fact free".
                          It would be easier for you to provide actual facts from the voluminous 'Trump-Spin' media outlets you've referenced that are uncontaminated by conspiracy theories, paranoid inferences and anti Obama/Hillary narratives designed to promote Trump at the expense of facts. Shouldn't take you long.
                          “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            It would be easier for you to provide actual facts from the voluminous 'Trump-Spin' media outlets you've referenced that are uncontaminated by conspiracy theories, paranoid inferences and anti Obama/Hillary narratives designed to promote Trump at the expense of facts. Shouldn't take you long.
                            "Hillary killed JFK with Obama's fake birth certificate at Benghazi while in league with Bin Laden" - Mountain Man probably.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #15
                              If you guys have nothing meaningful to contribute to the discussion then stay out of my thread.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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