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    And the youtube webcam, gave proof through the night, that the flag was still there...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    According to FEMA, it's not an issue.

    FEMA says funding transferred to ICE for detention centers won't harm hurricane response

    Washington (CNN)Officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency insisted Wednesday that the transfer of nearly $10 million of its budget to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement will not affect the agency's hurricane response and other disaster relief efforts.
    "We have plenty of resources, both monetary, staff and commodities, to respond to the storm," Jeff Byard, FEMA's associate administrator for the Office and Response and Recovery, told reporters during a morning briefing as Hurricane Florence barreled toward the Carolina coast. "We have plenty of resources to respond, plenty of resources to recover. That has not impacted our situation whatsoever."


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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Yes, it is tRump.
    Public schools in North Carolina must suck.



    On a serious note --- are ya catching any of this hurricane, Frank?

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    Is this passion for adversity and the meaning derived from it, not the heart and soul of Christianity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Public schools in North Carolina must suck.
    Actually with the Conservatives in control of the legislature and keep down the funding we have problem in the public school systems especially in the poorer counties.



    On a serious note --- are ya catching any of this hurricane, Frank?[/QUOTE]

    Yes, I am in Hillsborough, NC, and not much except a few areas lost power due to wind. No significant rain yet. Tonight we will get rain, but near as much as South of here. I bought a house on s hill top for good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Actually with the Conservatives in control of the legislature and keep down the funding we have problem in the public school systems especially in the poorer counties.
    Ya know, it's amazing, but there are a bunch of REALLY GOOD schools working on a very small budget without any problems. More money does not necessarily equal better education.

    Yes, I am in Hillsborough, NC, and not much except a few areas lost power due to wind. No significant rain yet. Tonight we will get rain, but near as much as South of here. I bought a house on s hill top for good reason.
    Stay safe and keep your powder dry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Ya know, it's amazing, but there are a bunch of REALLY GOOD schools working on a very small budget without any problems. More money does not necessarily equal better education.
    Exactly. The left wants to pretend that their willingness to shovel money at education willy-nilly without any thought of accountability as evidence of their support of kids and families while those mean ol' conservatives want everyone to just go away and die. But this seems more motivated by funneling money to teacher's unions who then contribute huge amounts back into Democrat coffers[1] than anything else. Am I being too cynical? Then explain if educating children was the goal why do liberals tend to fight tooth and nail against any ideas to improve education that doesn't include massive transfers of money such as charter schools and school choice[2]?

    And if liberal policies are the best way to improve education then why are they in complete control of the worst school districts and systems in spite of massive outlays of money?

    I cannot help thinking about how when, back in the mid-80s a federal judge ordered that billions of dollars be spent upgrading Kansas City's schools. The educrats were giddy with delight. They set about adding enormous gyms to the schools, built an Olympic swimming pool, TV studios, a planetarium, a zoo, and even a wildlife sanctuary. After burning through $2 Billion it was discovered that what they did not get was a single new textbook to replace the worn-out sadly out-dated ones they had. And IIRC not a single new teacher was hired although a lot more administrators were[3].

    Results? The schools got worse. Markedly so. Something like five years later the Kansas City school district failed 11 performance standards and lost its academic accreditation for the first time in the district’s history.

    The top five "states"[4] when it comes to total Elementary/Secondary Public School spending/student were from the top down New York, Alaska, Washington D.C., Connecticut and New Jersey but in 2017 they respectively placed 40th, 31st, 51st, 44th and 38th in SAT rankings. Yet the state with lowest total Elementary/Secondary Public School spending/student, Utah,which spent about a third or less for each student as those at the top was 10th in SAT scores. The one with the fifth lowest expenditure, Mississippi, ranked 9th.

    Overall, the trend for SAT scores reveals that most of the high spending states are doing bad in that measure whereas most of the lower spending states have higher scores. So if throwing money at the problem is the solution then why did many of the states with the lowest per student expenditures do better than many of those with the highest per student expenditures?

    This sorta blows a hole in the notion that spending more money means better results, doesn't it.

    Interestingly, in 2000 the state with the highest average SAT score was North Dakota, which ranked 41st in per student spending but has since began spending a lot more moving up to 15th in that category and yet has also dropped to 6th for SAT scores.

    Further (the last time I checked), Americans spend more on schooling than the vast majority of countries that outscore us on the international tests.










    1. For instance, according to Open Secrets, the American Federation of Teachers donated $7,919,897 to politicians and political groups with $7,888,355 going to Democrats and liberals (99.9%) and $6500 to Republicans and conservatives

    2. A perfect example of this is what happened at Mollie E. Ray Elementary in Orlando, Florida as the 2002-2003 school year began. The school had received an "F" rating for the past two years (1 of only 10 schools to "earn" such a distinction), as judged annually by the state of Florida so the victims of such failed schools are allowed to apply for vouchers to help them escape. So how did the school react? Vowing to fix the problem? To work on improving education?

    Nah.

    To start, students were met by teachers wearing T-shirts proclaiming "F = Fantastic." Getting an "F" grade was now considered a positive thing. The union educrats chose to brainwash young minds with Orwellian double-speak into thinking that flunking is actually a good thing. Then school officials attacked the scores of parents, who did choose to opt out, for "abandoning" their schools in a time of need. Excuse me. Apparently some parents had the temerity to want the best for their children rather than sacrifice them on the altar of public "edjumakatun" and were savaged for it. Still it would have been interesting come Report Card time when the little darlings still stuck in that unrepentantly failed school explained this "F = Fantastic" concept to their parents. Trouble is, too many might fallen for it.

    3. When I started High School it was so overcrowded not only were there nearly a dozen trailers setting in the parking lot being used as classrooms but we had to go in shifts with juniors and seniors going in the morning and freshmen and sophomores in the afternoon. Yet we only had 4 principals. Now after expanding the building and several new schools being built, resulting in a smaller school population, there are somewhere between 10 and 15 principals.

    4. this includes Washington D.C. which is not a state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Exactly. The left wants to pretend that their willingness to shovel money at education willy-nilly without any thought of accountability as evidence of their support of kids and families while those mean ol' conservatives want everyone to just go away and die. But this seems more motivated by funneling money to teacher's unions who then contribute huge amounts back into Democrat coffers[1] than anything else. Am I being too cynical? Then explain if educating children was the goal why do liberals tend to fight tooth and nail against any ideas to improve education that doesn't include massive transfers of money such as charter schools and school choice[2]?

    And if liberal policies are the best way to improve education then why are they in complete control of the worst school districts and systems in spite of massive outlays of money?

    I cannot help thinking about how when, back in the mid-80s a federal judge ordered that billions of dollars be spent upgrading Kansas City's schools. The educrats were giddy with delight. They set about adding enormous gyms to the schools, built an Olympic swimming pool, TV studios, a planetarium, a zoo, and even a wildlife sanctuary. After burning through $2 Billion it was discovered that what they did not get was a single new textbook to replace the worn-out sadly out-dated ones they had. And IIRC not a single new teacher was hired although a lot more administrators were[3].

    Results? The schools got worse. Markedly so. Something like five years later the Kansas City school district failed 11 performance standards and lost its academic accreditation for the first time in the district’s history.

    The top five "states"[4] when it comes to total Elementary/Secondary Public School spending/student were from the top down New York, Alaska, Washington D.C., Connecticut and New Jersey but in 2017 they respectively placed 40th, 31st, 51st, 44th and 38th in SAT rankings. Yet the state with lowest total Elementary/Secondary Public School spending/student, Utah,which spent about a third or less for each student as those at the top was 10th in SAT scores. The one with the fifth lowest expenditure, Mississippi, ranked 9th.

    Overall, the trend for SAT scores reveals that most of the high spending states are doing bad in that measure whereas most of the lower spending states have higher scores. So if throwing money at the problem is the solution then why did many of the states with the lowest per student expenditures do better than many of those with the highest per student expenditures?

    This sorta blows a hole in the notion that spending more money means better results, doesn't it.

    Interestingly, in 2000 the state with the highest average SAT score was North Dakota, which ranked 41st in per student spending but has since began spending a lot more moving up to 15th in that category and yet has also dropped to 6th for SAT scores.

    Further (the last time I checked), Americans spend more on schooling than the vast majority of countries that outscore us on the international tests.










    1. For instance, according to Open Secrets, the American Federation of Teachers donated $7,919,897 to politicians and political groups with $7,888,355 going to Democrats and liberals (99.9%) and $6500 to Republicans and conservatives

    2. A perfect example of this is what happened at Mollie E. Ray Elementary in Orlando, Florida as the 2002-2003 school year began. The school had received an "F" rating for the past two years (1 of only 10 schools to "earn" such a distinction), as judged annually by the state of Florida so the victims of such failed schools are allowed to apply for vouchers to help them escape. So how did the school react? Vowing to fix the problem? To work on improving education?

    Nah.

    To start, students were met by teachers wearing T-shirts proclaiming "F = Fantastic." Getting an "F" grade was now considered a positive thing. The union educrats chose to brainwash young minds with Orwellian double-speak into thinking that flunking is actually a good thing. Then school officials attacked the scores of parents, who did choose to opt out, for "abandoning" their schools in a time of need. Excuse me. Apparently some parents had the temerity to want the best for their children rather than sacrifice them on the altar of public "edjumakatun" and were savaged for it. Still it would have been interesting come Report Card time when the little darlings still stuck in that unrepentantly failed school explained this "F = Fantastic" concept to their parents. Trouble is, too many might fallen for it.

    3. When I started High School it was so overcrowded not only were there nearly a dozen trailers setting in the parking lot being used as classrooms but we had to go in shifts with juniors and seniors going in the morning and freshmen and sophomores in the afternoon. Yet we only had 4 principals. Now after expanding the building and several new schools being built, resulting in a smaller school population, there are somewhere between 10 and 15 principals.

    4. this includes Washington D.C. which is not a state.
    Yet, people who came through the North Carolina Public School system don't even know how to capitalize proper nouns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yet, people who came through the North Carolina Public School system don't even know how to capitalize proper nouns!
    To be fair, shunya is not exactly a recent graduate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    To be fair, shunya is not exactly a recent graduate.
    That's even worse -- he was in school before the progressives took over?

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