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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think you're confusing "allowing adversity" (which is in the title of your cite) with your perversion of it as a "passion" for it.
Google something else, and let's try that.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThe article looks at God’s purpose behind adversity. Some people are strengthened by overcoming adversity and others are crushed by it. Adversity, being from God is given an elevated status. What I mean is that Christians feel blessed by adversity if they overcome it and those that fail God’s test are undeserving.
Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIs this passion for adversity and the meaning derived from it, not the heart and soul of Christianity?
And your "Adversity, being from God" is a bit misguided. The article mentions that God ALLOWS adversity, not that he originates or sends it on us. Hence, the article's name... "What are God’s purposes for allowing adversity in my life?"
Come on, Google something else - this is fun.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhich is a FAR hoot, holler and cry from your original nutter statement....
We don't (at least I don't) have a 'passion' for adversity, but am prepared for it when it comes, and rejoice in God's power to overcome it.
And your "Adversity, being from God" is a bit misguided. The article mentions that God ALLOWS adversity, not that he originates or sends it on us. Hence, the article's name... "What are God’s purposes for allowing adversity in my life?"
Come on, Google something else - this is fun.
This looks like the age old ‘problem of evil’. Only theists have this problem.Last edited by firstfloor; 09-21-2018, 04:32 AM.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI agree that God is ‘hands off’.
That is to say, that whatever ‘God’ is, ‘He’ is inert, according to the evidence.
That is what ALLOWS is equivalent to. So, while we pray, ‘He’ sits on ‘His’ hands and just allows things to happen as if ‘He’ was asleep.
This looks like the age old ‘problem of evil’. Only theists have this problem.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNever said that. Don't believe that. Dishonest of you to imply that.
You mean, according to your opinion.
You're certainly entitled to be wrong, and to be disingenuous in doing so.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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So, to answer his question that started this little rabbit chase...
Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIs this passion for adversity and the meaning derived from it, not the heart and soul of Christianity?
https://iblp.org/questions/what-are-...ersity-my-lifeThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI agree that God is ‘hands off’. That is to say, that whatever ‘God’ is, ‘He’ is inert, according to the evidence. That is what ALLOWS is equivalent to. So, while we pray, ‘He’ sits on ‘His’ hands and just allows things to happen as if ‘He’ was asleep.
This looks like the age old ‘problem of evil’. Only theists have this problem."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNever said that. Don't believe that. Dishonest of you to imply that.
You mean, according to your opinion.
You're certainly entitled to be wrong, and to be disingenuous in doing so.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIs it the case that God plays His part when you give him credit for overcoming adversity?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostGod doesn't "play parts".“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostBut I think what we have discovered is that adversity is random chance, human error and so on, and God helps you to clear up the mess, overcome and so on.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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