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Hurricane Florence is all Trump's Fault
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostTrump's beliefs regarding climate change shouldn't even come into the conversation about a weather event like this. It's just a cheap shot at him, which is not surprising when EVERYTHING is his fault according to the media.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHuh. And here I thought the snow you're getting now was all Trump's fault.
I was being facetious, silly piggy.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFor those lost deep in the throes of TDS that doesn't matter. It's still Trump's fault.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostI'm sure that will be the case on this evening's news.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThis is a great comfort to Bush.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Texas Baptist Men (Relief Organization) are already in the Carolinas, and one of the men from my Church, who is one of their supervisors, reports that they passed convoy after convoy of Electric Company vehicles from multiple states headed that way to help get power restored.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post(emphasis added) Thank you for at least admitting that. When a policy results in unintended consequences which will actually make things worse, it absolutely should be dismantled. "Let's make it impossible to burn coal here, so the coal gets shipped to China instead, where they essentially don't even have environmental regulations!"
(emphasis added) What was that about hysteria again? Get a grip on yourself, Jim.
The problem is that what Trump is doing is an overreaction that is far more favorable to buisiness interests than it should be. Yes, there have been excesses in the EPA. Yes there has to be a balancing of interest, not just one side or the other. But that is not Trump's approach.
We do not want a return to buisiness profit concerns override all others. We do not need the dismantling of climate research to appease big oil or coal or any other buisiness that doesn't like the scientific conclusion of AGW.
What is needed is a balance. Policies that respect and protect the environment without undue burden on business.
Of course what us undue burden is in the eye of the beholder. A good example of which can be found in this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/u...-drilling.html
Hard for us laymen to know if the Obama era rules are 'too much'. But we can know that what existed before Deep Water Horizon likely wasn't enough, and we certainly don't need another event to be fostered by carelessness or over-zealous favoritism to the business concerns.
Btw, your accusations of hysteria on my part in my previous post are wholly unfounded ad hominem. Trump's attacks on climate research and the EPA are significant and aggressive. Setting us back decades is not an exaggeration, though it may not apply in all areas.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 09-12-2018, 06:25 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post"Trump is complicit" In what? "another hurricane"
They blame Trump, then back off and say "his AGW denial"
Even with complete denial, there is no way his policy has had any change on the climate in 1-1/2 years.
It would appear it is the latter because I certainly didn't offer any agreement whatsoever with the idea Florence is somehow Trump's fault. I criticized that approach to the headline in fact.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostTrump's beliefs regarding climate change shouldn't even come into the conversation about a weather event like this. It's just a cheap shot at him, which is not surprising when EVERYTHING is his fault according to the media.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWe would agree that trying to pin the hurricane on Trump is stupid. The argument in the article (as opposed to its headline) that Trump's policies are the sort of policies that will make hurricanes like florence more likely is accurate. As well as the argument that by moving things backwards in this arena, it worsens the total effect.
Jim
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWhat is needed is a balance. Policies that respect and protect the environment without undue burden on business.
Btw, your accusations of hysteria on my part in my previous post are wholly unfounded ad hominem. Trump's attacks on climate research and the EPA are significant and aggressive. Setting us back decades is not an exaggeration, though it may not apply in all areas.
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Setting aside the silly OP. My concerns on the topic are:
- The last hurricane, Maria in Puerto Rico, caused the biggest death toll (2,982) of any US natural disaster in the last 100 years. And most of those fatalities were preventable and occurred after the hurricane due to loss of power & water supplies. The Trump administration did a worse job of handling it than Bush did of Katrina. Less than 2 weeks after Maria I said Trump should resign due to his atrocious handling of the recovery, and a year later when it has become clear how many thousands of Americans died due to the incompetence of the response, Trump still refuses to take any responsibility whatsoever and literally rates his handling of the event as "higher than A+".
- The Trump administration has funneled $10m out of FEMA to fund ICE. So despite their past failures at hurricane recovery, and their knowledge that more hurricanes are coming, they instead want to spend the money separating families and imprisoning babies.
- The Trump administration has utterly failed to address the global problem of climate change that many scientists agree is making hurricanes worse and more frequent."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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