Hurricane Florence is all Trump's Fault

[mossrose]

You don't believe in the power of prayer?

Prayer from the ilk of Robertson sure made a difference in the Redding fire!

Oh, wait. No, it didn't......

[seer]

Prayer from the ilk of Robertson sure made a difference in the Redding fire!

Oh, wait. No, it didn't......

Couldn't we say the same thing of our prayers? God answers some, but not others?

[Leonhard]

Couldn't we say the same thing of our prayers? God answers some, but not others?

Yes. Especially Pat Robertson.

[seer]

Yes. Especially Pat Robertson.

Why on earth would you say that? You know I'm not a fan of his but I know a couple dozen people who came to faith in Christ because of his show. That is more than I have helped bring to Christ.

[rogue06]

I personally think that one of the most egregious failures of the response was the mass deaths of everyone in hospital intensive care units due to the hospitals running out of fuel to power their backup generators and thus unable to provide power to their patients life support systems and their hospital equipment. It cannot be that hard, all things considered, to deliver ongoing supplies of fuel to hospitals to ensure that backup power generators can be run continuously. Whether that means sending in petrol tankers, doing resupply drops from planes, or loading a helicopter's monsoon bucket up with diesel and delivering it to the hospitals, it's very doable. Regardless of what state the wider island's electricity grid was in, every hospital should have been kept with power on 24/7 and been resupplied constantly with fresh bottled drinking water to hand out to their local communities.

The failure to do that, and instead the "well we delivered the drinking water to the warehouse near the airport... oh, everyone died, oh well" attitude simply astounds me.

By day 2 after the hurricane I was hearing news 3rd hand from someone who'd called their relative on the island that there were serious problems because all the hospitals were out of power and their backup generators were out of fuel. And if I was hearing that, why hadn't the President been informed of that 24 hours earlier and why wasn't the President acting on it? That's "I'm calling in the military, I'll be in the situation room" time. And the news got worse from the island every day after that. After 2 weeks, it was clear there had been mass casualties and the President had fiddled while Rome burned. Now the guy grades his response as better than A+. A reasonable person would offer their resignation after failing that badly and getting so many Americans needlessly killed on their watch.

If the supplies and equipment are being delivered but local government agencies are squirreling them away and hoarded them for whatever reason then the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the corrupt inept local government.

Don't forget that the feds were literally forced to use force of arms to get these local agencies to release much needed supplies and equipment while others were found socked away nearly a year later.

These are the reasons that the MSM has pretty much dropped the story. If they cover it then Trump is exonerated and it is the heads of the liberal Democrats who the people would be clamoring for.

[One Bad Pig]

Why on earth would you say that? You know I'm not a fan of his but I know a couple dozen people who came to faith in Christ because of his show. That is more than I have helped bring to Christ.

Source: 1 Philippians

15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: 16 The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

© Copyright Original Source

Just sayin'. He may well be sincere in what he preaches, but he's not what I'd consider a role model.

[rogue06]

I don't believe in the efficacy of Pat Robertson.

I don't think even Pat Robertson believes in the efficacy of Pat Robertson.

[mossrose]

Couldn't we say the same thing of our prayers? God answers some, but not others?

God answers every prayer of a believer.

Yes, no, or wait.

But those who claim to be able to stop hurricanes and tornadoes and fire by commanding them forget that they are not in charge of such things.

[Sparko]

God answers every prayer of a believer.

Yes, no, or wait.

But those who claim to be able to stop hurricanes and tornadoes and fire by commanding them forget that they are not in charge of such things.

yeah there is a difference in asking God to help and in commanding the hurricane yourself.

[mossrose]

yeah there is a difference in asking God to help and in commanding the hurricane yourself.

Like Gloria Copeland says she and her husband do. I sure don't see them stopping weather like this by their command.

[Mountain Man]

Why on earth would you say that? You know I'm not a fan of his but I know a couple dozen people who came to faith in Christ because of his show. That is more than I have helped bring to Christ.

"Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice."
-Apostle Paul

Edit: OBP beat me to it!

[rogue06]

yeah there is a difference in asking God to help and in commanding the hurricane yourself.

Big time.

[Starlight]

Because a military overthrow of the government and declaration marshal law would have solved everything.

You're a nutter. Military helicopters distributing bottled water and diesel to hospitals is not "a military overthrow of the government".

You say, "The President should have known what was going on over there!" What makes you so certain he didn't? I guarantee he knows far more about the situation than an armchair pontificate like you.

It appears from his recent denials of the death count that he was actually ignorant of the situation. From all that's been leaked from the WH lately, I suspect his aides were unwilling to bring him bad news that not everything was going well because they knew he'd just yell at them if they did and not do anything productive with the information.

If he was fully knowledgeable about how many Americans were dying per day under his watch, then that makes it all the worse that he stood by and did nothing.

Puerto Rico is also an American Territory and a president can't use military troops for enforcement on American soil.

Did you know that delivering fuel is not law enforcement?

Don't worry, all this will be ignored by Starlight and crew.

Yes, when MM posts fake stuff from Breitbart I ignore it.

U.S.—While Hurricane Florence was originally expected to slam the East Coast as a major storm this week, the very latest prediction models have shown something amazing—even miraculous.

As more and more Christians specifically used the term “hedge of protection” in their prayers for the Eastern Seaboard, a mystical, invisible hedge appeared off the coast, and the hurricane is now expected to ricochet harmlessly off into the ocean...

https://babylonbee.com/news/hurrican...of-protection/

The difference between satire and people's religious beliefs in this instance is paper-thin. People really do think their prayers can change hurricane paths.

[Sparko]

You're a nutter. Military helicopters distributing bottled water and diesel to hospitals is not "a military overthrow of the government".

It appears from his recent denials of the death count that he was actually ignorant of the situation. From all that's been leaked from the WH lately, I suspect his aides were unwilling to bring him bad news that not everything was going well because they knew he'd just yell at them if they did and not do anything productive with the information.

If he was fully knowledgeable about how many Americans were dying per day under his watch, then that makes it all the worse that he stood by and did nothing.

Did you know that delivering fuel is not law enforcement?

Yes, when MM posts fake stuff from Breitbart I ignore it.

The difference between satire and people's religious beliefs in this instance is paper-thin. People really do think their prayers can change hurricane paths.

You realize that Trump DID send in the National Guard to help after Maria don't you? How do you think all those supplies that the PR government sat on got there in the first place?

[Sparko]

Live webcam of the hurricane from Frying Pan tower.