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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostOf course you don’t because you don’t care about the total lack of due process and how democrats attempted to railroad a man based on his politics and are trying to make him sound ‘illegitimate’ based on unconfirmed claims that he did something 35 years ago that nobody else seems to remember happening. I understand why you don’t want this ‘tangent’ because it reveals the problem with the entire episode and it’s guilty till proven innocent way it’s been going.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAgain, since I have already noted (several times) that both parties have engaged in this "take a side" posturing without adequate evidence, all you're doing is taking a side and acting as if I have as well. I have not. I have been clear that I believe both Kavanaugh and Ford were poorly treated."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd yet one is being made a hero by the media and the other a villain with promises to impeach if elected. What side is it?Last edited by carpedm9587; 10-09-2018, 05:43 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostDo you know Ford's general demeanor well enough to know that isn't her normal persona?
I personally know several very intelligent and successful women in their careers that present a very similar demeanor when stressed or sometimes just in everyday conversation. It's just who they are.
What evidence do you have other than your own disdain for her that you are correct in your assessment this aspect of her testimony was false?
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostIt's further worth pointing out that studies and tests have constantly shown that humans are actually pretty bad at telling if someone is lying based on body language/demeanor; that is, so bad you might as well flip a coin to guess at it. Attempting to assess whether someone is telling the truth or not based on their demeanor is, contrary to what you'll often see in fiction, essentially an exercise in futility.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAgain, since I have already noted (several times) that both parties have engaged in this "take a side" posturing without adequate evidence, all you're doing is taking a side and acting as if I have as well. I have not. I have been clear that I believe both Kavanaugh and Ford were poorly treated.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLook, man, you're casting your net far too wide. Nobody is saying that victims of rape and other sexual assaults should keep silent. But that doesn't justify women like Ford, Ramirez, and Swetnick making obviously false and malicious accusations against an innocent man.
And speaking of Swetnick, a commentator on CNN is blaming her lawyer, Michael Aventi, for pushing the ridiculous "gang rape" narrative and hurting "the Democratic effort to bring down Kavanaugh’s nomination".
https://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...ing-kavanaugh/
Well, at least he was honest about what they were trying to do.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMore like:
A: "This man robbed me!"
B: "No I didn't!"
Officer: "And what evidence do you have that he robbed you?"
A: "Well, I'm accusing him, aren't I? That's more than enough evidence to start an investigation."
Officer: "You don't understand the burden of proof, do you sir?"
A: "The burden of what now?"
Officer: "Have a good evening, sir."
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostWeÂ’ve tried the system of guilty till proven innocent. Did you not pay attention in your history class at the results? Mercy and protection of the innocent is just as important, if not more so, than justice and punishment of the guilty. If you want to live under your idiotic rules, try North Korea. Perhaps 20 years of hard labor for the crime of having dust on the picture of the dear leader might be enough to show you why guilty till proven innocent is a dumb idea.
And if a life can be destroyed by a mere accusation, would it stay that way? And we’ve also been through this and you ignored it, your claim only measures those accusations were credible evidence of a crime might have occurred. It didn’t take into account the claims that were unable to be verified. Ignoring that detail doesn’t make go away, no matter how much you wish that detail would disappear.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe FBI investigation was widely regarded as “incomplete”, i.e. it was not a thorough investigation with many of the witnesses who were willing to come forward not being interviewed. This was a disservice to both sides and will leave a cloud over Kavanaugh for the rest of his career.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is safe to say that no matter what the left would have found something to complain about and used it as an excuse to dismiss it.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Idiotic Missile View PostAn accusation is enough evidence to spur a police officer to investigate. The lack of corroborating evidence can either indicate that the claim was false or prevent even an interested officer from investigating. Either way, I don't see the categorical difference between something that begins an investigation and something that renews an investigation.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostBoth Sparko and LPoT have told me that rape victims should not name their rapists if they don't have any evidence.
An accusation is enough evidence to spur a police officer to investigate. The lack of corroborating evidence can either indicate that the claim was false or prevent even an interested officer from investigating. Either way, I don't see the categorical difference between something that begins an investigation and something that renews an investigation."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostYou are conflating social and legal consequences. I have not been arguing that accusations without evidence should necessarily have legal repercussions.
I didn't ignore it, I asked you to provide the page number of the report so I can have the specific context of your objection."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is safe to say that no matter what the left would have found something to complain about and used it as an excuse to dismiss it.
Democrats (2018): “The FBI is courrupted!”
The democrats were hoping for a long and drawn out FBI investigation in order to push it out past November, so the could maybe win the senate and get their own pick. This was never about the truth, but holding onto power so they could keep using the courts to push through what they can’t at the ballet box. Why do you think they fear an over turn of Roe vs Wade?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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