Time To Smear Kavanaugh's Good Name...

[seer]

If Kavanaugh doesn't make it, I hope Trump puts up Amy Barrett, that would serve the leftists right...

[Cow Poke]

If Kavanaugh doesn't make it, I hope Trump puts up Amy Barrett, that would serve the leftists right...

Are you thinking he's not?

[Mountain Man]

I find it very hard to believe anyone in their right mind is going to come forward with something like this and name names that can be asked and queried over the issue if they don't believe it was a real event. And if she believes it was a real event and all the people she expected to be able to help confirm her story are denying it, then coupled with the death threats and other hostilities, she's in a very difficult place right now - regardless of what the truth is.

Given the lack of corroborating evidence, the fuzzy memories of the supposed "victims" who conveniently seem to have forgotten every critical detail but miraculously have crystal clear recall of Kavanaugh's name and face, and that every named witness has denied the allegations, I think there are only two reasonable possibilities:

1) The accusers are lying.
2) The accusers are not in their right minds.

Either way, it's almost certain that Kavanaugh is innocent.

[oxmixmudd]

Jim, I'm not as concerned about HER delay as I am in the Democrats bringing this to the fore AFTER the legitimate hearings had already happened, and it looked like he was on the road to confirmation.

Yep - there is ALSO a lot of politics mixed in here. No doubt about it. Ford doesn't want a man like Kavanaugh on the SC. But assuming this is a real event in her memory it may well be a significant part of the reason she believes he is not qualified, and only something like his nomination would be something she would feel could justify facing the personal attacks she would have to endure bringing it forward. And of course, I did make it personal by saying to mountain man his cynical, hostile attitude to that element of the story is right there in your face evidence of why her delay bringing the story forward is credible, and in general why many women don't come forward at all in cases like this.

Jim

[Mountain Man]

If Kavanaugh doesn't make it, I hope Trump puts up Amy Barrett, that would serve the leftists right...

You really think the Democrats won't use every dirty trick in the book to smear a conservative nominee, regardless of their gender?

[oxmixmudd]

You really think the Democrats won't use every dirty trick in the book to smear a conservative nominee, regardless of their gender?

Of course they will. The only thing wrong with your statement here is the implication this is somehow only in the wheelhouse of the Democratic party. The simple reality is that the dirty tricks playbook is well worn on both sides of the isle. It's called "Politics 101".


Jim

[Sparko]

It is standard procedure for the FBI to do background checks on potential candidates for the judiciary. Kavanaugh has already had six prior to his various appointments over the years. All that's required it a further background check in the light of the additional information being provided by professor Ford. Given the seriousness of the allegations and the importance of and the life-time tenure of the SCOTUS justices is is a reasonable ask. Kavanaugh himself should welcome it in order to clear his name.



Oh say not so...you mean like Merrick Garland?

An FBI background check is just a look through records databases and maybe interviewing friends and family members if something shows up. They are checking for criminal records or associations with hostile groups or anything that could compromise his loyalty. They don't actually investigate crimes at a state level and can't legally do so unless it involves a federal crime. This was not even a crime, it was some drunk kids at a party which was apparently not broken up by the police and went totally unnoticed for 35 years. There is nothing to investigate. No records, no clues. The people who were there have submitted their statements and there is no way to check them out.

I had a background check by the FBI when I went to get my global entry/TSA Precheck card. They didn't call anyone about me. They just did an online background check and found nothing so they gave the goahead for me to get the card from Customs.

You keep trying to assert how it should work doesn't make it so. Repeating it doesn't make it true. You don't know what you are talking about and are just repeating liberal talking points.

[Cow Poke]

An FBI background check is just a loot through records databases...

How DARE you disparage hard-working FBI personnel like that!

[Bill the Cat]

An FBI background check is just a loot through records databases and maybe interviewing friends and family members if something shows up. They are checking for criminal records or associations with hostile groups or anything that could compromise his loyalty. They don't actually investigate crimes at a state level and can't legally do so unless it involves a federal crime. This was not even a crime, it was some drunk kids at a party which was apparently not broken up by the police and went totally unnoticed for 35 years. There is nothing to investigate. No records, no clues. The people who were there have submitted their statements and there is no way to check them out.

Considering she can't remember what date, what house, or anything, and those she says were there say there was no such instance at any party they attended that summer, It's nothing more than slander at this point.

[Sparko]

This is buried a dozen paragraphs below the headline:

One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. “I don’t think Brett would flash himself to Debbie, or anyone, for that matter,” he said. Asked why he thought Ramirez was making the allegation, he responded, “I have no idea.” The other male classmate who Ramirez said was involved in the incident commented, “I have zero recollection.”

In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events: “We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett’s Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them that we never saw or heard about this.”

The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.” She said she hadn’t spoken with Ramirez for about ten years, but that the two women had been close all through college, and Kavanaugh had remained part of what she called their “larger social circle.” In an initial conversation with The New Yorker, she suggested that Ramirez may have been politically motivated. Later, she said that she did not know if this was the case.

So the pattern continues: a woman has vivid memories of being sexually assaulted by Kavanaugh, yet the people named as witnesses have no memory of it.

This is the pile on anything we can to delay the hearing part of the process. Hurl everything at the wall and hope something sticks long enough to delay the confirmation until they have enough votes to defeat him. It is such a transparent con game.

[Sparko]

Not at all. We "self-righteous liberals" have become quite accustomed to hypocritical Evangelicals supporting and defending sexual aggression against women by self-entitled, sexist men.

**cough** Harvey Weinstein / John Conyers / Al Franken / **cough**

[Sparko]

So lets get this straight, all you conservative Kavanaugh backers actually believe that this woman is making up this entire story and putting herself and her family through this misery for personal political reasons? Just goes to show why you are so easily manipulated. It's no wonder Trump can continuously lie to you without fear of losing your support. Trump knows you well!

Nope. I think something probably happened to her in school that she can't remember but is now using against Kavanaugh because it is a convenient way to delay the hearings and she figured she would be a hero to the liberals (which she is) and doesn't care what the conservatives say about her because they are all misogynist bigoted Nazis, right?

Misery ha! She is the hero of the liberals right now basking in glory.

[Sparko]

How DARE you disparage hard-working FBI personnel like that!

dang pirate slang got the better of me! i fixed it!

[Cow Poke]

Not at all. We "self-righteous liberals" have become quite accustomed to hypocritical Evangelicals supporting and defending sexual aggression against women by self-entitled, sexist men.

Feinstein, other Dems largely silent on abuse claims against Keith Ellison

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[Sparko]

Oh lookie, more piling on:

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Michael Avenatti said he has 'significant evidence' that Brett Kavanaugh participated in sexual misconduct in high school

The attorney Michael Avenatti added to the sexual-misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh on Sunday, claiming he has "significant evidence" that the Supreme Court nominee participated in sexual misconduct in high school.

In an email to Mike Davis, the chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee, Avenatti said he had evidence that at house parties in the early 1980s, Kavanaugh, his friend Mark Judge, and others would target women using alcohol and drugs "in order to allow a 'train' of men to subsequently gang rape them."

Avenatti did not identify any witnesses or disclose more details about the allegations. He tweeted a screenshot of the email on Sunday evening after announcing he was representing "a woman with credible information" about Kavanaugh and Judge.



https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...vanaugh-2018-9