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McRaven resigned from Pentagon board days after criticizing Trump
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNo, because he is an honorable, honest highly respected veteran with the integrity that tRump totally lacks.
Seriously, if he was that unhappy with Trump, the honorable thing is to resign. Check!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostEveryone should tweet far less.
But yeah, Trump is an egregious example.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostAs I understand it, his resignation is mostly protest against Trump's treatment of Clapper. He didn't do anything wrong.
Based on the facts surrounding the so called 'release of classified info', the accusation against Clapper is as 'Trumped up' as what appears to be happening the Kavanaugh.
IIRC Clapper made a vague statement and another person familiar with goings on made a lucky guess as to what it might mean and was stupid enough to declare his guess in a news interview.
JIm"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostTalk about using a shotgun approach to avoid addressing the topic of the thread. Stop throwing 'Red Herring' manure bombs and address the topic of the thread.I have seen many accusations that John Brennan released National Security State secrets, but no documentation. McRaven does not think this is the case.
Can you please be specific what National Security State secrets John Brennan released to the press?
Again and again, please be specific."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe issue is not me.
No, because he is an honorable, honest highly respected veteran with the integrity that tRump totally lacks.
Fixed. Please do not misrepresent my posts. It is unethical. What I stated concerning McRavan reflects his reputation in the Military and the intelligence community.
Still waiting . . .
Is there any error here in this? Can you cite anyone in the professional intelligence community and the military that disagrees."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Nothing special either way. Many ex officials still have security clearances, and only those that disagree with tRump have had them removed.
The issue is not who is president. The issue is whether any National Security secrets were leaked by those who were accused, and had their Security Clearance removed.
This has a long history that former high ranking officials maintain a TS for reasons of consulting with the existing government officials when needed especially in crisis situations and many still do, but tRump has selectively removed TS from officials that disagree with him.
It still remains that there are no documented National Security leaks from those that have had their TS revoked, despite the mud slinging accusations.
To add no National Security secrets were revealed in Woodward's book, nor the OP ED.
Still waiting . . .Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-15-2018, 10:14 AM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNo, because he is an honorable, honest highly respected veteran with the integrity that tRump totally lacks.
Fixed. Please do not misrepresent my posts. It is unethical. What I stated concerning McRavan reflects his reputation in the Military and the intelligence community.
Still waiting . . .
Oh please, give the drama queenery a break. As long as the reply links back to the post so people can go and check what the original actually said there is nothing "unethical" about taking a little jab at someone. Especially if it's clearly signaled that an alteration has taken please ("Fixed that for you").
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostWho? References."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNothing special either way. Many ex officials still have security clearances, and only those that disagree with tRump have had them removed.
The issue is not who is president. The issue is whether any National Security secrets were leaked by those who were accused, and had their Security Clearance removed.This has a long history that former high ranking officials maintain a TS for reasons of consulting with the existing government officials when needed especially in crisis situations and many still do, but tRump has selectively removed TS from officials that disagree with him.It still remains that there are no documented National Security leaks from those that have had their TS revoked, despite the mud slinging accusations.
To add no National Security secrets were revealed in Woodward's book, nor the OP ED.
Still waiting . . ."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostWould that you could bring yourself to put that fine a microscope on what Trump should be doing ...
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHe should be pretending he doesn't have a Twitter account, grow a thicker skin and be acting far more presidential. I agree with the revocation of Brennan's TS clearance; the man should never have had one in the first place.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd again, why does a former director get to keep his TS?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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