McRaven resigned from Pentagon board days after criticizing Trump

[Cow Poke]

Would that you could bring yourself to put that fine a microscope on what Trump should be doing ...


Jim

For one, Trump should Tweet far less.

[Cow Poke]

No, because he is an honorable, honest highly respected veteran with the integrity that tRump totally lacks.

And he knows how to capitalize proper nouns!

Seriously, if he was that unhappy with Trump, the honorable thing is to resign. Check!

[Zymologist]

For one, Trump should Tweet far less.

Everyone should tweet far less.

But yeah, Trump is an egregious example.

[Cow Poke]

Everyone should tweet far less.

But yeah, Trump is an egregious example.

My goal is to go to my grave (in due time) never having Tweeted at all.

[lilpixieofterror]

As I understand it, his resignation is mostly protest against Trump's treatment of Clapper. He didn't do anything wrong.

Based on the facts surrounding the so called 'release of classified info', the accusation against Clapper is as 'Trumped up' as what appears to be happening the Kavanaugh.

IIRC Clapper made a vague statement and another person familiar with goings on made a lucky guess as to what it might mean and was stupid enough to declare his guess in a news interview.


JIm

And again, why does a former director get to keep his TS?

[lilpixieofterror]

Talk about using a shotgun approach to avoid addressing the topic of the thread. Stop throwing 'Red Herring' manure bombs and address the topic of the thread.

It was addressed quite well, nobody has a sacred right to have a TS. Let alone a former director that currently isn’t working a job that requires one. What makes him so special?

I have seen many accusations that John Brennan released National Security State secrets, but no documentation. McRaven does not think this is the case.

Can you please be specific what National Security State secrets John Brennan released to the press?

Again and again, please be specific.

I’m not the president, so how do I know? Now I ask again, why does a former director need a TS?

[lilpixieofterror]

The issue is not me.

No, because he is an honorable, honest highly respected veteran with the integrity that tRump totally lacks.

Fixed. Please do not misrepresent my posts. It is unethical. What I stated concerning McRavan reflects his reputation in the Military and the intelligence community.

Still waiting . . .

Is there any error here in this? Can you cite anyone in the professional intelligence community and the military that disagrees.

Plenty of honorable, highly respected veterans disagree. Your point? Now again, why does a former director need a TS?

[shunyadragon]

Plenty of honorable, highly respected veterans disagree. Your point? Now again, why does a former director need a TS?

Who? References.

[shunyadragon]

It was addressed quite well, nobody has a sacred right to have a TS. Let alone a former director that currently isn’t working a job that requires one. What makes him so special?

Nothing special either way. Many ex officials still have security clearances, and only those that disagree with tRump have had them removed.

I’m not the president, so how do I know? Now I ask again, why does a former director need a TS?

The issue is not who is president. The issue is whether any National Security secrets were leaked by those who were accused, and had their Security Clearance removed.

This has a long history that former high ranking officials maintain a TS for reasons of consulting with the existing government officials when needed especially in crisis situations and many still do, but tRump has selectively removed TS from officials that disagree with him.

It still remains that there are no documented National Security leaks from those that have had their TS revoked, despite the mud slinging accusations.

To add no National Security secrets were revealed in Woodward's book, nor the OP ED.

Still waiting . . .

[JonathanL]

No, because he is an honorable, honest highly respected veteran with the integrity that tRump totally lacks.

Fixed. Please do not misrepresent my posts. It is unethical. What I stated concerning McRavan reflects his reputation in the Military and the intelligence community.

Still waiting . . .

Oh please, give the drama queenery a break. As long as the reply links back to the post so people can go and check what the original actually said there is nothing "unethical" about taking a little jab at someone. Especially if it's clearly signaled that an alteration has taken please ("Fixed that for you").

[lilpixieofterror]

Who? References.

Do you read consertive sources too or only liberal rags? There’s no sacred right to have a clearance after your job is done. Normal Americans only get and keep clearances as needed, what makes them so special to hold onto theirs?

[lilpixieofterror]

Nothing special either way. Many ex officials still have security clearances, and only those that disagree with tRump have had them removed.

And again, what sacred right says former director get to keep their clearance after they leave government service?

The issue is not who is president. The issue is whether any National Security secrets were leaked by those who were accused, and had their Security Clearance removed.

And again, I don’t get to keep mine after I leave government service, why are they so special they get to keep theirs?

This has a long history that former high ranking officials maintain a TS for reasons of consulting with the existing government officials when needed especially in crisis situations and many still do, but tRump has selectively removed TS from officials that disagree with him.

AKA it’s a curtsey extended by the federal government that can be revoked anytime. There’s no sacred right to have one after government service.

It still remains that there are no documented National Security leaks from those that have had their TS revoked, despite the mud slinging accusations.

To add no National Security secrets were revealed in Woodward's book, nor the OP ED.

Still waiting . . .

Still waiting for why it is a sacred right to keep ones clearance after government service.

[One Bad Pig]

Would that you could bring yourself to put that fine a microscope on what Trump should be doing ...


Jim

He should be pretending he doesn't have a Twitter account, grow a thicker skin and be acting far more presidential. I agree with the revocation of Brennan's TS clearance; the man should never have had one in the first place.

[oxmixmudd]

He should be pretending he doesn't have a Twitter account, grow a thicker skin and be acting far more presidential. I agree with the revocation of Brennan's TS clearance; the man should never have had one in the first place.

Honestly, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

[oxmixmudd]

And again, why does a former director get to keep his TS?

Because people with that much experience with a top level clearance are rare, the we, the United States of America, can and do benefit greatly by having access to that experience. It's that simple. Cutting them off over partisan politics and even less valid - personal revenge and an over-inflated ego - is shooting ourselves in the foot.

Jim