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Well James Dobson announced Trump accepted Christ and was now a new Christian back in June 2016. I guess he would have had a baptism around the same time. Dobson doesn't believe in infant baptisms. But my mention of it wasn't to say that it is baptism that changes a person. It is accepting Christ that is the turning point. The baptism is just a ceremony to show your joining with Christ in his death and resurrection.Originally posted by Roy View Post
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Well, according to Evangelical and fundamentalist Protestants, anyway.Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Except for fundamentalist (that is, confessional) Lutherans.Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWell, according to Evangelical and fundamentalist Protestants, anyway.
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Which would include Trump.Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWell, according to Evangelical and fundamentalist Protestants, anyway.
I am still not convinced he is a Christian but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his sexual escapades being in the past. I don't think he would even dare something like that while in office, despite his ego. Too many eyes on him. Too many people out to get him.
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Lutherans are weird. YouOriginally posted by Chrawnus View PostExcept for fundamentalist (that is, confessional) Lutherans.
drink wine! Couldn't possibly be fundamentalists! (and "Evangelical" Lutherans are flaming liberals)
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologistComment
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And the best looking First Lady since Jackie Kennedy.Originally posted by Sparko View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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I can find nothing to indicate Trump did anything other than address a crowd of religious leaders. Nor is there any indication that Dobson made any such announcement - in fact, he's explicitly denied it.Originally posted by Sparko View Post
The story of Trump's renewed religiosity seems to be just that - a story, with no factual basis.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
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read it carefully, He acknowledges he made the comments, but was referring to what he heard, that Paula White led him to Christ. He then goes on to say he doesn't know for sure the condition of Trump's salvation, only God knows but he is prepared to accept it as true.Originally posted by Roy View Post
Dear David,
Only the Lord knows the condition of a person’s heart. I can only tell you what I’ve heard. First, Trump appears to be tender to things of the Spirit. I also hear that Paula White has known him for years and that she personally led him to Christ. Do I know that for sure? No. Do I know the details of that alleged conversion? I can’t say that I do. But there are many Christian leaders who are serving on a faith advisory committee for Trump now and in the future. I am among them. How will that play out if Trump becomes President? I don’t know. It is a good start, I would think.
If anything, he appears to be a baby Christian who doesn’t have a clue about how believers think, talk and act. All I can tell you is that we have only two choices, Hillary or Donald. This much is self-evident: we can’t afford to sit out this election, and we must be in prayer for our nation at this time of crisis.
Hope this helps.
I said as much myself. I don't know if Trump is actually a Christian. But I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.
Nice try at nitpicking though.
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Sure, but just because someone was baptized as a kid didn’t make them a Christian. You would think you would understand this.Originally posted by JimL View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
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To be fair, I don't consider anyone who claims to be a Lutheran who isn't confessional (i.e one who do not hold to the doctrines taught in the book of concord to be a true interpretation of the Christian faith) to be Lutheran in the first place.Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostLutherans are weird. You drink wine! Couldn't possibly be fundamentalists! (and "Evangelical" Lutherans are flaming liberals)
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Jim's just fishing for an aspersion to cast. He's not into that whole understanding thing.Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Not only do we drink wine, some of us would also argue lay claim to apostolic succession, and not wholly without reason:Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostLutherans are weird. You drink wine! Couldn't possibly be fundamentalists! (and "Evangelical" Lutherans are flaming liberals)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposto...heran_churches
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More like decapitation.Originally posted by Sparko View PostJorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...Comment
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Perhaps you'd consider posting what, in your opinion, in the source is the denial you allude to? I'm not seeing it, but maybe I'm missing something.Originally posted by Roy View PostEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologistComment
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