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Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI thought it was a pretty devastating comeback, actually.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostFrom who? other people pressured into saying what Mueller wants them to say?“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm amazed OBP hasn't resigned in disgrace!“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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One thing I've actually wondered- ok, none of the publicly announced convictions from those closely tied to trump from his campaign or afterwards have been about collusion as such, they are criminal convictions of those close to him.
Why does he have such a number of criminal associates, and why is this not really discussed by people who voted for him? Especially by those who voted for him as the lesser of two evils (the ones who claim not to support him, but at the same time don't attack him either)
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Originally posted by EvoUK View PostOne thing I've actually wondered- ok, none of the publicly announced convictions from those closely tied to trump from his campaign or afterwards have been about collusion as such, they are criminal convictions of those close to him.
Why does he have such a number of criminal associates, and why is this not really discussed by people who voted for him? Especially by those who voted for him as the lesser of two evils (the ones who claim not to support him, but at the same time don't attack him either)"Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostIt wasn't about voting for the lesser of two evils; it was about advancing a world view. For all practical considerations, it doesn't matter to most conservatives that Trump is a scumbag so long as he supports key conservative doctrines. It didn't matter to liberals that Clinton was a scumbag either.
A) Hillary not be POTUS
2) SCOTUS not be Hillary's.
I really didn't know much about Trump at the time except that he wasn't Hillary and the liberals hated him.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View PostOne thing I've actually wondered- ok, none of the publicly announced convictions from those closely tied to trump from his campaign or afterwards have been about collusion as such, they are criminal convictions of those close to him.
Why does he have such a number of criminal associates, and why is this not really discussed by people who voted for him? Especially by those who voted for him as the lesser of two evils (the ones who claim not to support him, but at the same time don't attack him either)"What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostFor myself at least, not speaking for anyone else, I've just become accustomed to the down right dirtiness of politics. I mean, how do we think all these people in both houses of congress get so rich while on a gov't salary? I know some of them were rich to start off, but by no means are they all that way. It's not that we like it, but acceptance as BAU has settled in I'm afraid...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View PostOne thing I've actually wondered- ok, none of the publicly announced convictions from those closely tied to trump from his campaign or afterwards have been about collusion as such, they are criminal convictions of those close to him.
Why does he have such a number of criminal associates, and why is this not really discussed by people who voted for him? Especially by those who voted for him as the lesser of two evils (the ones who claim not to support him, but at the same time don't attack him either)
No idea if you're aiming at me with the last bit, but I've stated several times that Trump needs to reign in his Twitter account, and be much more careful about what he says. I'm also not at all happy with his crude womanizing past, but he seems to be behaving these days.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm not seeing "such a [large] number of criminal associates" - I see a couple people who panicked and lied to the FBI, and a couple people convicted of fiscal impropriety, and a bunch of Russians who aren't actual associates. It seems that those who broke financial laws did so surreptitiously; not sure Trump is culpable for stuff other people tried to hide. Cynical me is of the opinion that pretty much any wealthy business man could be found to have violated financial laws if one looks closely enough, and targets of investigation have been chosen mostly for their association with Trump.
No idea if you're aiming at me with the last bit, but I've stated several times that Trump needs to reign in his Twitter account, and be much more careful about what he says. I'm also not at all happy with his crude womanizing past, but he seems to be behaving these days.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by EvoUK View PostOne thing I've actually wondered- ok, none of the publicly announced convictions from those closely tied to trump from his campaign or afterwards have been about collusion as such, they are criminal convictions of those close to him.
Why does he have such a number of criminal associates, and why is this not really discussed by people who voted for him? Especially by those who voted for him as the lesser of two evils (the ones who claim not to support him, but at the same time don't attack him either)Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostThat is, that the supreme court advance conservative values.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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