Kids Raised With Religion Do Much Better

[carpedm9587]

Again, if you spend a life pursuing worldly happiness, getting a wife, kids, filling your time with activity at the job, and doing all those things, then you'd ironically be slothful. You might be having the time of your life, but I'm just saying that as a Christian you've been given a higher purpose than not doing drugs, or scoring well in school.

We agree that its the mark of a Christian to feel joy at conforming themselves to God's will.

Not in the worldview no. Though atheists are still humans, and so, still have telos, which they can know through natural reason. I'd use that to point out flaws in their worldview mind you, but they'd still be doing it.

I disagree on this. We are more similar than we are different. There's hardly any difference between you and carpedm9587, in terms of what makes you feel happy and fulfilled lives.

Probably one of the wiser things I've seen posted on TWeb...(emphasis mine)

[carpedm9587]

I just like Leon - he's good people.

Likewise...

[carpedm9587]

You mean like Mr. Ackerman from High School? I think his first name was Vernon.

ARRGG....

[rogue06]

You mean like Mr. Ackerman from High School? I think his first name was Vernon.

Looks like just because lao hasn't been around that someone is seeking to claim his crown as biggest jerk.











Oh wait. One grammar/spelling Nazi picking on another grammar/spelling Nazi.... Never mind.

[Cow Poke]

Looks like just because lao hasn't been around that someone is seeking to claim his crown as biggest jerk.











Oh wait. One grammar/spelling Nazi picking on another grammar/spelling Nazi.... Never mind.

He gets his fair share of shots at me! Sometimes I slip up on purpose just to let him think he got me!



It's TRUE!!!!




[fingers crossed behind my back]

[carpedm9587]

Looks like just because lao hasn't been around that someone is seeking to claim his crown as biggest jerk.

Oh wait. One grammar/spelling Nazi picking on another grammar/spelling Nazi.... Never mind.

Us GSNs have to stick together. We're under appreciated...

[carpedm9587]

He gets his fair share of shots at me! Sometimes I slip up on purpose just to let him think he got me!

It's TRUE!!!!

[fingers crossed behind my back]

And you're flies unziped

[Cow Poke]

And you're flies unziped

You mean my fly's unzipped?


You did that just to allow me to ....


yeah, sure.

[carpedm9587]

You mean my fly's unzipped?

You did that just to allow me to ....

yeah, sure.

Who...me?

[rogue06]

I dont no witch of the too of ewe iz worserest

[carpedm9587]

I dont no witch of the too of ewe iz worserest

Obviously...eye yam!

[Cerebrum123]

I think we can safely say that all of TWeb is about you, CP...

I thought it was about bacon?

[rogue06]

Obviously...eye yam!

Your both their in the winners circle.

[seer]

As I understand it, teleos (is that the right word?) is a principle that springs from the concept of "design" or "purpose" or "intent." I think the term can be separated from creator/gods and refer to "suitability of form." In other words, if I understand the structure and form of a piece of wood, I will know that using it as a lever to lift a 2 ton block is not suitable to its form (i.e., it's too slender) and likely to result in a bent/broken piece of wood. By this sense, a human person (like any other "object") has a teleos. So, living in recognition of that is likely to result in more happiness.

What does that mean? Weren't you telling me that a hammer had no teleology?

But Seer is speaking about a "god-given purpose" for a god he cannot even show actually exists. So, ultimately, Seer is trying to impose his definition of our "purpose" on those around him, and label anyone who does not conform as "blind" or "deluded."

It's not really a position with which a rational discussion can be had.

On certain subjects Carp, like theology or ethics, we begin with presuppositions that can not be reconciled. And you are constantly trying to get me to accept your presuppositions or worldview and argue from your position, what you find reasonable, what you find compelling or acceptable.

[Cow Poke]

Your both their in the winners circle.