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Why the Air Force Won't Buy the F-15X or 'New' F-22 Raptor

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  • #31
    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    This is a very pertinent point. The US government doesn't actually own the data rights; the corporations building the jets do. As long as they control the software, they can charge big bucks for maintenance contracts.
    Pretty much.

    It is a good plane though. At least it is now that all the chinks have been worked out.

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    • #32
      Somebody's gonna need a new plane or two!

      Belgian air force mechanic opens fire by mistake, blows up another F-16

      f-16 on fire.jpg

      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Doh!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Somebody's gonna need a new plane or two!

          Belgian air force mechanic opens fire by mistake, blows up another F-16

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          I want to see the gun firing plane with a small F-16 silhouette "kill" painted beneath the cockpit.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
            Doh!
            A friend of mine was a fighter pilot stationed in Adana Turkey (Incirlik Air Base) back in the 80's. Their outfit was training Turkish fighter pilots, who just couldn't get the hang of runway safety.

            One of the Turkish pilots was doing his final turn at the end of the runway, and somehow, on lining up to take off, managed to fire a sidewinder missile, narrowly missing the ATC tower, and taking out two fully fueled and armed (but thankfully unmanned) F-16 fighter jets.

            The Turkish pilot was only 3 or 4 weeks from graduation.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
              I want to see the gun firing plane with a small F-16 silhouette "kill" painted beneath the cockpit.

              I'm always still in trouble again

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                A friend of mine was a fighter pilot stationed in Adana Turkey (Incirlik Air Base) back in the 80's. Their outfit was training Turkish fighter pilots, who just couldn't get the hang of runway safety.

                One of the Turkish pilots was doing his final turn at the end of the runway, and somehow, on lining up to take off, managed to fire a sidewinder missile, narrowly missing the ATC tower, and taking out two fully fueled and armed (but thankfully unmanned) F-16 fighter jets.

                The Turkish pilot was only 3 or 4 weeks from graduation.
                Was it a monday? Yikes.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
                  I want to see the gun firing plane with a small F-16 silhouette "kill" painted beneath the cockpit.
                  Meh. Ain't nothin' compared to the USS Forrestal fire - one missile nearly took out an entire carrier.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    Meh. Ain't nothin' compared to the USS Forrestal fire - one missile nearly took out an entire carrier.
                    For which McCain was often wrongly accused.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      fuel...check....canopy...check...vulcan cannon....CHECK!


                      Reading some comments on the story there are various safety mechanisms in place, like a wheel weight lockout, that should keep the cannon from firing on the ground, not to mention they should have unloaded the ammo. this might not have been an accident.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        fuel...check....canopy...check...vulcan cannon....CHECK!


                        Reading some comments on the story there are various safety mechanisms in place, like a wheel weight lockout, that should keep the cannon from firing on the ground, not to mention they should have unloaded the ammo. this might not have been an accident.
                        In the case I mentioned in Turkey, it was suspected it was NOT an accident - the Turkish pilot who "accidentally" fired the missile was in danger of not graduating due to insubordination to his American trainer. One of the jets that was destroyed was said trainer's jet.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          F-35's Most Sinister Capability


                          F-35's Most Sinister Capability Are Towed Decoys That Unreel From Inside Its Stealthy Skin

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                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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