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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    As I said, I suspect the problem is "militant." Many atheists I encounter are more anti-theists than a-theists. There is a significant difference.
    I think that the whole New Atheist movement is largely anti-theist in their atheism. That's what makes it militant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I think that the whole New Atheist movement is largely anti-theist in their atheism. That's what makes it militant.
    Any movement that attempts to correct perceived wrongs will inevitably be militant. E.g. The Civil Rights Movement to gain equal rights and freedom from discrimination for all. And the New Atheists (with organisations such as Freedom from Religion) attempt to get rid of the notion that Christianity has certain privileges in society that are unavailable to all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Any movement that attempts to correct perceived wrongs will inevitably be militant. E.g. The Civil Rights Movement to gain equal rights and freedom from discrimination for all. And the New Atheists (with organisations such as Freedom from Religion) attempt to get rid of the notion that Christianity has certain privileges in society that are unavailable to all.
    It is very hard for a group to recognize it's own privileges. And when the under-privileged stand up and say, "let's have some balance here," the usual response is an angry "you're persecuting us." Losing privileges others don't have feels like a diminishment - and nobody likes to feel diminished. It's the human condition...
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Any movement that attempts to correct perceived wrongs will inevitably be militant. E.g. The Civil Rights Movement to gain equal rights and freedom from discrimination for all. And the New Atheists (with organisations such as Freedom from Religion) attempt to get rid of the notion that Christianity has certain privileges in society that are unavailable to all.
    That isn't what militant atheists want. They want to suppress religion. Period. Employing violence if need be (see the League of Militant Atheism). They are not all about equal treatment or equal rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    It is very hard for a group to recognize it's own privileges. And when the under-privileged stand up and say, "let's have some balance here," the usual response is an angry "you're persecuting us." Losing privileges others don't have feels like a diminishment - and nobody likes to feel diminished. It's the human condition...
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    No.
    Yeah, no.
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    I prefer the term "clueless Atheist" to "militant Atheist" -- calling these internet twerps "militant" is giving them too much credit. They are just hateful anti-theists who are completely clueless and just beat the same dead horse while patting themselves on the back at how they put the Christians in their place.

    You know, like JimL and Tassman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    It is very hard for a group to recognize it's own privileges. And when the under-privileged stand up and say, "let's have some balance here," the usual response is an angry "you're persecuting us." Losing privileges others don't have feels like a diminishment - and nobody likes to feel diminished. It's the human condition...
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    No.
    Yes...
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yeah, no.
    Yeah, yes...
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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