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  • #16
    So it seems like what happened is that Trump's allies have been leaking to the media that "Rosenstein Is Totally Going to Resign" in an effort to pressure Rosenstein to resign.

    Rosenstein, however, isn't cooperating with the strategy and isn't resigning.

    So, Fake News.

    The reason it's important for Trump to pressure Rosenstein to resign, rather than simply firing him, is because it affects how his replacement is appointed. If he resigns, Trump can quickly appoint a replacement. If he's fired, the replacement process is (probably) subject to things like senate-approval, and the act of firing him would probably also be interpreted as obstruction of justice by the courts.

    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    He resigned.

    [false breitbart article]
    Turns out Breitbart is Fake News yet again.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #17
      Originally posted by oxmixmuddle View Post
      No - we had no idea it was possible to be swampier than the swamp till Trump became president. Now the swamp looks nice and clean by comparison.
      Not really.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
        Turns out Breitbart is Fake News yet again.
        First of all, they weren't the only ones to report it. Secondly, they updated the article to reflect new information.

        https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...to-john-kelly/

        As for the "deep dive" analysis...

        ----------

        The decision by President Trump not to declassify the information did two things: (1) it gave the President leverage over Rosenstein and by extension over Mueller. After all, the construct of the special counsel was built upon DOJ/FBI intentional lies and FISA fraud. (2) the decision places a heavy burden upon the Inspector General to be brutally honest with his FISA report. If the IG is not brutally honest, Trump releases the declassified information and the IG is shown as participating in a cover-up.

        All of this leverage makes the position of DAG Rod Rosenstein tenuous.

        Do you think Rosenstein likes the idea of sitting around waiting for the IG report to show the world how badly he botched the DOJ job, and even facilitated their corrupt activity, during his stewardship? He made a Special Counsel investigative appointment from a foundation of fraud; and all of this was collateral damage from the political efforts of the prior administration. Think about it. Sucks to be the DAG. [He did it to himself]

        Add into that sunlight waiting to surface – the reality that former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe is openly telling his allied media he has evidence (memos) that will implicate Rosenstein in the plot, scheme and soft-coup. See Rosensteins’ position?

        There’s no reason for the White House to fire Rosenstein; his own conduct has put himself into a virtual corner and there’s only one way out. So it was brutally obvious, to me, with Trump carrying all of this leverage over Rosenstein, the White House meeting today wasn’t about firing him.

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com...24/rosenstein/
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          First of all, they weren't the only ones to report it.
          Nor even close to the first. It appears that Axios (which is usually regarded as center-left) was the first to claim he was going to be fired. The a little later the Washington Post (which only someone as far left as starlight could regard as being right wing) said their sources in the White House informed them that Rosenstein resigned. The feeding frenzy proceeded from there in spite of the fact that was a previously scheduled meeting (public knowledge) and Trump was out of town (again public knowledge).

          IOW, this was once again a manufactured news story from the left that others picked up on.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #20
            Interesting analysis of the Rosenstein situation. Apparently part of the confusion in the media is that Rosenstein actually did attempt to resign multiple times, so that wasn'tt fake news, but Trump won't let him off that easy.

            Source: President Trump and DAG Rod Rosenstein – “No Collusion”, No Immediate Worries…

            President Trump and President Trump’s supporters have two slightly different sets of priorities when it comes to the DOJ and FBI. From President Trump’s perspective the thorn in his administration has been Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The agreement between Rosenstein and Trump negates any concern about Mueller.

            Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein created the special counsel under fraudulent pretense. That origination material (Ohr 302’s, FISA pages, origination EC, and Page/Strzok messages) is now a risk to the Deputy AG.

            DAG Rosenstein does not want his involvement in the fraud to be exposed; hence his request to block/stall/delay the declassification directive. However, at any time President Trump can declassify all the documents and outline the fraudulent basis that originated the special counsel. This is essentially President Trump’s leverage.

            ...

            Forget the media spin on Rod Rosenstein. This is his actual position. President Trump has him cornered. Eighteen months worth of headaches as a result of his: (a) intentional efforts; or (b) ineptitude; because for all things that mattered AG Sessions was recused, and the DAG was in charge.

            When you have this much leverage on someone, you don’t want them to quit. You want to use their damaged and tenuous position to your advantage. President Trump is in no hurry to fire Rosenstein (not yet); because the DAG is so weak and President Trump holds all the leverage in the relationship.

            Rod Rosenstein knows what he did wrong; and President Trump knows what Rosenstein did wrong. Though it could change based on new discoveries of how far the DAG went along within the soft-coup process, President Trump isn’t likely to let Rosenstein go until everyone else knows what Rosenstein did wrong.

            https://theconservativetreehouse.com...diate-worries/

            © Copyright Original Source


            This would certainly explain Trump's confidence that his administration is in clear as far as Russia is concerned and that it's the Democrats who need to look over their shoulders.

            "I think we’ll be treated very fairly. Everybody understands there was no collusion. There’s no Russia. It was all made up by the Democrats. They’re the ones that colluded with Russia. The Democrats colluded with Russia. And, frankly, the previous administration didn’t do anything about Russia when they knew that they should have."
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Interesting analysis of the Rosenstein situation. Apparently part of the confusion in the media is that Rosenstein actually did attempt to resign multiple times, so that wasn'tt fake news, but Trump won't let him off that easy.

              Source: President Trump and DAG Rod Rosenstein – “No Collusion”, No Immediate Worries…

              President Trump and President Trump’s supporters have two slightly different sets of priorities when it comes to the DOJ and FBI. From President Trump’s perspective the thorn in his administration has been Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The agreement between Rosenstein and Trump negates any concern about Mueller.

              Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein created the special counsel under fraudulent pretense. That origination material (Ohr 302’s, FISA pages, origination EC, and Page/Strzok messages) is now a risk to the Deputy AG.

              DAG Rosenstein does not want his involvement in the fraud to be exposed; hence his request to block/stall/delay the declassification directive. However, at any time President Trump can declassify all the documents and outline the fraudulent basis that originated the special counsel. This is essentially President Trump’s leverage.

              ...

              Forget the media spin on Rod Rosenstein. This is his actual position. President Trump has him cornered. Eighteen months worth of headaches as a result of his: (a) intentional efforts; or (b) ineptitude; because for all things that mattered AG Sessions was recused, and the DAG was in charge.

              When you have this much leverage on someone, you don’t want them to quit. You want to use their damaged and tenuous position to your advantage. President Trump is in no hurry to fire Rosenstein (not yet); because the DAG is so weak and President Trump holds all the leverage in the relationship.

              Rod Rosenstein knows what he did wrong; and President Trump knows what Rosenstein did wrong. Though it could change based on new discoveries of how far the DAG went along within the soft-coup process, President Trump isn’t likely to let Rosenstein go until everyone else knows what Rosenstein did wrong.

              https://theconservativetreehouse.com...diate-worries/

              © Copyright Original Source


              This would certainly explain Trump's confidence that his administration is in clear as far as Russia is concerned and that it's the Democrats who need to look over their shoulders.

              "I think we’ll be treated very fairly. Everybody understands there was no collusion. There’s no Russia. It was all made up by the Democrats. They’re the ones that colluded with Russia. The Democrats colluded with Russia. And, frankly, the previous administration didn’t do anything about Russia when they knew that they should have."
              The theory that Rosenstein has flipped on his liberal friends in order to save himself has been floating about for several months now.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                According to reports, Rosey tried to resign at least 5 different times and was rebuffed every time. What's a rat to do when he can't flee the sinking ship?

                Answer: Drag the other rats down with him.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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