Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer (2018)

[Mountain Man]

A key word in that definition is ‘unlawful’. Thanks for making my point.

It depends on who's law you're talking about.

[firstfloor]

It depends on who's law you're talking about.

Lord, grant me strength and wisdom to admonish these morons and their spooky laws.

[lilpixieofterror]

Lord, grant me strength and wisdom to admonish these morons and their spooky laws.

He was convicted of murder FF. Although I gave yet to hear why birth magically makes a someone a ‘person’. Can you explain how?

[Cow Poke]

Lord, grant me strength and wisdom to admonish these morons and their spooky laws.

Lord, grant him the wisdom to take You seriously.

[Cow Poke]

A key word in that definition is ‘unlawful’. Thanks for making my point.

A) Gosnell was, indeed, convicted of 'unlawful' murder, genius. That's what this thread is all about.
2) You kinda tripped over the fact that it's human killing human that makes it murder - killing fish is not illegal either, but it's not murder.

[Sparko]

Looks like he succeeded in the end. But that's one of the hazards of being a troll magnet I guess.

Yes, I couldn't resist in the end. He is a top notch troll.

[rogue06]

A key word in that definition is ‘unlawful’. Thanks for making my point.

Slaughtering the physically and mentally ill as well as those belonging to various ethic and religious groups (Jews and gypsies/Roma) was legal in Nazi Germany. I guess that makes it all right then, correct?

[firstfloor]

Slaughtering the physically and mentally ill as well as those belonging to various ethic and religious groups (Jews and gypsies/Roma) was legal in Nazi Germany. I guess that makes it all right then, correct?

No. Bad or immoral laws are sometimes passed and enforced. Just look at Trump’s border policy; using the law to carry out “the most horrific immigration policy I've ever seen” according to Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU’s Immigrants’ Rights Project.

[firstfloor]

He was convicted of murder FF. Although I gave yet to hear why birth magically makes a someone a ‘person’. Can you explain how?

Hi LPOT, it’s always a joy to chat with you. Your question is very interesting of course and central to the debate. There are a few things that strike me as being significant. Firstly, although it is of the same substance, a raindrop is not an ocean. A ‘person’ is a final state; an individual human being. Human babies are born rather early in their development and are given the title ‘person’ and named before they have really earned the privilege.

Secondly, the human race may well be unique in the known Universe. If rarity makes it precious, then only the race itself can appreciate its value. It doesn’t. No, it prefers to fight wars and think up new ways to kill everything. At the moment it does not look like it deserves to survive and inhabit new worlds.

If the species itself is a failure in cosmic terms, then how much less important are the individual units of the species in all their over abundance? Of course, that’s now how the individual person sees himself, looking out of his own tiny skull. Our perspective is unusual; we don’t see the big picture at all. Instead, in a mind boggling miscalculation of scale, we pretend that we have a personal relationship with the creator of the Universe.

Finally, if you get my meaning, you might suspect like me that anxiety about abortion, like many other human errors, is borne out of hubris.

[lilpixieofterror]

Hi LPOT, it’s always a joy to chat with you. Your question is very interesting of course and central to the debate. There are a few things that strike me as being significant. Firstly, although it is of the same substance, a raindrop is not an ocean. A ‘person’ is a final state; an individual human being. Human babies are born rather early in their development and are given the title ‘person’ and named before they have really earned the privilege.

Secondly, the human race may well be unique in the known Universe. If rarity makes it precious, then only the race itself can appreciate its value. It doesn’t. No, it prefers to fight wars and think up new ways to kill everything. At the moment it does not look like it deserves to survive and inhabit new worlds.

If the species itself is a failure in cosmic terms, then how much less important are the individual units of the species in all their over abundance? Of course, that’s now how the individual person sees himself, looking out of his own tiny skull. Our perspective is unusual; we don’t see the big picture at all. Instead, in a mind boggling miscalculation of scale, we pretend that we have a personal relationship with the creator of the Universe.

Finally, if you get my meaning, you might suspect like me that anxiety about abortion, like many other human errors, is borne out of hubris.

This is an opinion piece that one can give the opposite opinion too.

[Cow Poke]

Hi LPOT, it’s always a joy to chat with you. Your question is very interesting of course and central to the debate. There are a few things that strike me as being significant. Firstly, although it is of the same substance, a raindrop is not an ocean...

...your theme song...

[rogue06]

Hi LPOT, it’s always a joy to chat with you. Your question is very interesting of course and central to the debate. There are a few things that strike me as being significant. Firstly, although it is of the same substance, a raindrop is not an ocean. A ‘person’ is a final state; an individual human being. Human babies are born rather early in their development and are given the title ‘person’ and named before they have really earned the privilege.

The case for "after birth abortion" being made.

[firstfloor]

...your theme song...

Well, I suppose it’s a change from the more usual “horsie poo” criticism. I think I might pen a short poem about Rachel and put it on my ‘signature’. I may take inspiration from the Canticles.

[Cow Poke]

Well, I suppose it’s a change from the more usual “horsie poo” criticism.

And you're full of horsie poo!

[Mountain Man]

Bad or immoral laws are sometimes passed and enforced.

For example, legalizing abortion.