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So the Democrats fought dirty in the Kavanaugh nomination battle, and lost...
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A bunch of crap. The Dems lost the Kavanaugh battle because the Republicans, who hold the majority, because they're basically still just as unprincipled a bunch now as they were in 1992, were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. The Dems thought they might be able to embarrass the Republicans into doing the right thing, but thats because Democrats still haven't figured out that Republicans have no principles, can't be embarassed, and don't fear their dumbed down constituency. There was nothing dirty about how the Dems proceeded in that hearing it's just that some Democrats are coming to the conclusion that perhaps, with respect to elections, they need to get down and dirty, to roll in the mudd with the pigs in order to win. It's too bad really, it may work in the short term, but once people wake up to the plutocracy they helped to create, it could destroy the Republican party for good. The Dems don't need to go there in my opinion, it's exactly the kind of response Republicans are hoping for.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostA bunch of crap. The Dems lost the Kavanaugh battle because the Republicans, who hold the majority, because they're basically still just as unprincipled a bunch now as they were in 1992, were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. The Dems thought they might be able to embarrass the Republicans into doing the right thing, but thats because Democrats still haven't figured out that Republicans have no principles, can't be embarassed, and don't fear their dumbed down constituency. There was nothing dirty about how the Dems proceeded in that hearing it's just that some Democrats are coming to the conclusion that perhaps, with respect to elections, they need to get down and dirty, to roll in the mudd with the pigs in order to win. It's too bad really, it may work in the short term, but once people wake up to the plutocracy they helped to create, it could destroy the Republican party for good. The Dems don't need to go there in my opinion, it's exactly the kind of response Republicans are hoping for.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostA bunch of crap. The Dems lost the Kavanaugh battle ...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostPower has to be shared fairly.
October 25, 2010
House Republican Whip Eric Cantor gave President Obama a list of modest proposals for the bill. Obama said he would consider the GOP ideas, but told the assembled Republicans that "elections have consequences" and "I won."
Dictators always put the courts in their pockets early on.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSays who?
October 25, 2010
House Republican Whip Eric Cantor gave President Obama a list of modest proposals for the bill. Obama said he would consider the GOP ideas, but told the assembled Republicans that "elections have consequences" and "I won."
About the only time he did talk to them it was to deliver a sneering lecture about how he won and elections have consequences where he haughtily told then House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (when the latter offered to negotiate on the stimulus package):
Look at the polls. The polls are pretty good for me right now. Elections have consequences. And Eric, I won.
Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, in his usual cordial manner, put it another way: "We have the votes. F-word them."
Obama and the Democrats in the House and Senate refused to consider a single Republican proposal during the first two years. And after the Republican landslide in 2010 Obama literally had to ask his aides if they knew how to contact the incoming Republican leadership because he never talked to them before.
Bob Woodward detailed a lot of this in his book The Price of Politics
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