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  • #31
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Interesting take on the word 'truthful', but it is imteresting to contrast his propensity for telling lies with his track record for keeping campaign promises.

    While I would normally applaud such a track record, the danger is that we are dangerously close to "the end justifies the means" if we ignore all the lying and unfair practices that are key components of him keeping these promises.

    Jim
    Close?!?!?! "the end justifies the means" is the Hallmark of the Republican Party.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Charles
      Great. You justed made it obvious that you have got nothing substantial to say. So you can't really give a meaningful statement on whether it is ok to lie or not. But of course you can attack the person asking the question, or try to make a joke or whatever. Must suck to have to rely on that in a debate about substance.
      Prediction: CP will deny, without good reason, that you said anything of “substance”, and accuse you of whining. He’s like that.
      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
        Prediction: CP will deny, without good reason, that you said anything of “substance”, and accuse you of whining. He’s like that.
        No, Tass - that's reserved just for you, because you say very little of substance. And, here you are whining.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Charles
          Great. You justed made it obvious...
          I "justed" did WHAT?
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            I "justed" did WHAT?
            And now you are doing it again. You will rather discuss an obvious error than the substance. Thank you for proving my point.
            "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Charles View Post
              And now you are doing it again. You will rather discuss an obvious error than the substance. Thank you for proving my point.
              Thank you for proving all you want to be is a Nanny.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Thank you for proving all you want to be is a Nanny.

                Nope, I was hoping for an answer to this question: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post583301

                Seems you can't answer. You have gone quite a long way to avoid the question. So at least we know you don't have a good answer.
                "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Charles View Post
                  Nope, I was hoping for an answer to this question: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post583301

                  Seems you can't answer. You have gone quite a long way to avoid the question. So at least we know you don't have a good answer.
                  And the nannying continues! Charles, the fact that I did not provide an answer is not proof that I don't have a good one. That's just ignorance on your part.

                  I didn't provide an answer because you're not really interested in one - all you want to to is pick nit and argue for no other reason than that you're our resident nanny.

                  Providing an answer to you just sets you off on another nannygate derail.

                  HOWEVER - as I have discussed at length elsewhere, I simply mentioned that there is a principle that says "it's OK to lie to the enemy."

                  I PERSONALLY have not found this to be necessary, unless you include "omission" of facts to be lying. (I can make a case for that)

                  When we are at war, there is constant "trickery and deceit" by both sides. Misinformation is purposely put out to gain the upper hand.

                  The example that somebody breaks into your house and demands to know where your wife and children are so the intruder can kill them is often given as an example of when it is "OK to lie".

                  I have pointed out in the past that I feel no obligation to respond to that question with a lie, but rather focus on the attack.

                  Kinda like I'm doing her with your nannying.

                  So, Nanny ON!!!!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    There's that old principle "it's ok to lie to your enemy".
                    Why should Christians accept that?
                    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      Why should Christians accept that?
                      I never said they should - continue reading, you'll see my response.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        I never said they should - continue reading, you'll see my response.
                        It's sad that our politics has reached a point where we can draw actual parallels with war, and it's not even hyperbole. But it is what it is, I guess.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #42
                          Trump is a lying liar.
                          "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

                          I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
                            Trump is a lying liar.
                            wouldn't that cancel out?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              wouldn't that cancel out?
                              If I were to tell that the next thing I say will be true, but the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me?
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                If I were to tell that the next thing I say will be true, but the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me?
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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