Page 3 of 53 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 524

Thread: Warren calls Trumps bluff, proves native american heritage.

  1. #21
    See, the Thing is... Cow Poke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    52,001
    Amen (Given)
    11277
    Amen (Received)
    24066
    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Breitbart updated their story with more accurate numbers:

    Source: Breitbart

    According to Warren’s own DNA test, she has, at best, 1/64th Native American ancestry, but it could also be as low as 1/1,024. Percentage-wise, she can claim somewhere between 0.1 percent to 1.56 percent Native lineage.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...tive-ancestry/

    © Copyright Original Source

    And, according to the Snopes article I cited earlier...

    The legitimacy of Warren’s claims to Native American heritage has certainly been challenged by many critics, and it is true that while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the “Minority Law Teacher” list as Native American) in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools, and that Harvard Law School at one time promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member.


    (I had been looking for an actual claim by Warren that she was - to whatever degree - Native American)
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

  2. #22
    tWebber Mountain Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    United States
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    15,987
    Amen (Given)
    5522
    Amen (Received)
    5517
    Source: Elizabeth Warren May Be No More Native American than Average White American

    The New York Times, citing the 23andMe data, reported: “The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.”

    That falls within Warren’s reported range, and suggests she may be no more Native American than the average white American.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...hite-american/

    © Copyright Original Source


    I don't think she should expect a check from Trump any time soon.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

  3. #23
    Professor Zymologist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    someplace in Montana
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    6,396
    Amen (Given)
    1384
    Amen (Received)
    3831
    Maybe Trump should write her a check for 1/1024 of a million dollars.
    Hofstadter's Law: It will always take longer than you expect, even if you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

  4. #24
    See, the Thing is... Cow Poke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    52,001
    Amen (Given)
    11277
    Amen (Received)
    24066
    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    Maybe Trump should write her a check for 1/1024 of a million dollars.
    Not to her - to her designated charity!
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

  5. Amen Jedidiah amen'd this post.
  6. #25
    tWebber Mountain Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    United States
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    15,987
    Amen (Given)
    5522
    Amen (Received)
    5517
    Breitbart continues the pile-on...

    Source: Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Test Included 0% Actual Native American DNA

    The Stanford University researcher who studied Sen Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) DNA sample did not actually use samples of Native American DNA.

    The Boston Globe broke the story Monday of Warren’s DNA test, which she and the newspaper claimed as proof of her Native American ancestry, after results suggested she may have had a Native American ancestor six to ten generations ago. That means her genome may be between 1/64 to 1/1024 percent Native American.

    Buried deep within the Globe story, however, is the admission that the Stanford University researcher who studied her DNA sample did not actually use samples of Native American DNA to determine whether Warren’s dubious claims of Cherokee ancestry were true.

    The Globe reported (original links):

    The analysis of Warren’s DNA was done by Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor and expert in the field who won a 2010 MacArthur fellowship, also known as a genius grant, for his work on tracking population migration via DNA analysis.



    Warren provided a sample of her DNA to a private lab in Georgia in August, according to one of the senator’s aides. The data from that test was sent to Bustamante and his team for analysis. Warren received the report last week.



    To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American. That’s because scientists believe that the groups Americans refer to as Native American came to this land via the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago and settled in what’s now America but also migrated further south. His report explained that the use of reference populations whose genetic material has been fully sequenced was designed “for maximal accuracy.”

    Bustamante said he can tease out the markers that these South Americans would have in common with Native Americans on the North American continent.

    The analysis depends, therefore, on faith in Bustamante’s methods of extrapolation, and on the other methods he used to determine that Warren’s supposedly Native American DNA segments were not mere statistical noise.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-american-dna/

    © Copyright Original Source

    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

  7. #26
    Professor Zymologist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    someplace in Montana
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    6,396
    Amen (Given)
    1384
    Amen (Received)
    3831
    If 1/64 (or whatever that miniscule fraction is) is the bar to be considered Native American, I'm probably "Native American."

    And I, as someone more clever than I has said, am whiter than cargo shorts and crocs.
    Hofstadter's Law: It will always take longer than you expect, even if you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

  8. #27
    See, the Thing is... Cow Poke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    52,001
    Amen (Given)
    11277
    Amen (Received)
    24066
    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Breitbart continues the pile-on...

    Source: Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Test Included 0% Actual Native American DNA

    The Stanford University researcher who studied Sen Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) DNA sample did not actually use samples of Native American DNA.

    The Boston Globe broke the story Monday of Warren’s DNA test, which she and the newspaper claimed as proof of her Native American ancestry, after results suggested she may have had a Native American ancestor six to ten generations ago. That means her genome may be between 1/64 to 1/1024 percent Native American.

    Buried deep within the Globe story, however, is the admission that the Stanford University researcher who studied her DNA sample did not actually use samples of Native American DNA to determine whether Warren’s dubious claims of Cherokee ancestry were true.

    The Globe reported (original links):

    The analysis of Warren’s DNA was done by Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor and expert in the field who won a 2010 MacArthur fellowship, also known as a genius grant, for his work on tracking population migration via DNA analysis.



    Warren provided a sample of her DNA to a private lab in Georgia in August, according to one of the senator’s aides. The data from that test was sent to Bustamante and his team for analysis. Warren received the report last week.



    To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American. That’s because scientists believe that the groups Americans refer to as Native American came to this land via the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago and settled in what’s now America but also migrated further south. His report explained that the use of reference populations whose genetic material has been fully sequenced was designed “for maximal accuracy.”

    Bustamante said he can tease out the markers that these South Americans would have in common with Native Americans on the North American continent.

    The analysis depends, therefore, on faith in Bustamante’s methods of extrapolation, and on the other methods he used to determine that Warren’s supposedly Native American DNA segments were not mere statistical noise.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-american-dna/

    © Copyright Original Source

    That's gotta sting!
    Every problem is the result of a previous solution.

  9. #28
    tWebber Mountain Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    United States
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    15,987
    Amen (Given)
    5522
    Amen (Received)
    5517
    For the record, Trump's actual quote:

    "Let’s say I’m debating Pocahontas . . . we will say, ‘I will give you $1 million to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian.'"

    So first of all, he presented it as a hypothetical and not an actual challenge.

    And secondly, even if it was a challenge, proving that she has a negligible sliver of Indian DNA in her blood does not reasonably meet the standard of showing that she's Indian.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

  10. #29
    Evolution is God's ID rogue06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Southeastern U.S. of A.
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    49,789
    Amen (Given)
    1060
    Amen (Received)
    17935
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Not to her - to her designated charity!
    If she's anything like Hillary she's already establishing one with her and her family as a major beneficiary.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" -- starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)

  11. #30
    Professor Zymologist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    someplace in Montana
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    6,396
    Amen (Given)
    1384
    Amen (Received)
    3831
    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Not to her - to her designated charity!
    Nah, he'd just need to donate it to a dis-privileged minority...say, a Native American?
    Hofstadter's Law: It will always take longer than you expect, even if you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •