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Warren calls Trumps bluff, proves native american heritage.

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  • #61
    I don't know, it looks like a bad call to claim heritage and part of a minorities issues. Yawn. Its as bad as those Red Skins fans who claim their stupid mascot and football isn't culturally insensitive, because their great great grandfather's nephew (thrice removed) once had relations with Native American.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      I don't know, it looks like a bad call to claim heritage and part of a minorities issues. Yawn. Its as bad as those Red Skins fans who claim their stupid mascot and football isn't culturally insensitive, because their great great grandfather's nephew (thrice removed) once had relations with Native American.
      I think it's more of a case that multiple polls show that something like 10% of Native Americans are offended by sports teams with names like "Indians," "Chiefs," "Apaches," "Seminoles" etc. while another 10% actually like them and 80% really don't care.

      Generally it's a whole lotta white liberals who angrily insist that Native Americans need to be upset and a very small percentage of them that are that causes all the fuss.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #63
        Her new video bragging that she's vindicated may come back to haunt her.

        ooooops
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          It shows that between 6 and 10 generations ago, she has a Native American ancestor.

          There is no fixed value. 1/32 is the minimum required to claim native American status and is a little over 3%. I have that but I've never claimed it. But I know my family tree. A DNA test is going to show how much of that DNA made it into her unique person, it can't prove exactly how recent that ancestor was. It shows she isn't 'making it up', but it also shows the ancestor is earlier than her great-great grandma or grandpa.
          In fact, at less than 1.6% Indian DNA at the very most, Warren is whiter than the average white American and has no business identifying herself as "American Indian". That she thinks she has somehow been vindicated is absurd. There's not a tribe in America that would claim her as one of their own.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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          • #65
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            I think it's more of a case that multiple polls show that something like 10% of Native Americans are offended by sports teams with names like "Indians," "Chiefs," "Apaches," "Seminoles" etc. while another 10% actually like them and 80% really don't care.

            Generally it's a whole lotta white liberals who angrily insist that Native Americans need to be upset and a very small percentage of them that are that causes all the fuss.
            A couple pertinent posts I made back in early 2015:

            UND is now the Fighting Hawks.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #66
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              I think it's more of a case that multiple polls show that something like 10% of Native Americans are offended by sports teams with names like "Indians," "Chiefs," "Apaches," "Seminoles" etc. while another 10% actually like them and 80% really don't care.
              To say nothing of the Aniak Halfbreeds

              edit - a better article from Anchorage Daily News https://www.adn.com/commentary/artic...ur/2014/09/20/
              We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.

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              • #67
                And Edmonton Eskimos. And Eskimo Pie. Ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

                3 people whine and we have to change the whole history of the world.


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                • #68
                  The Cherokee Nation's statement on the subject is relevant, I think.

                  I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                  • #69
                    The Democrat reaction to Lizzie's announcement can be summarized as

                    ""

                    https://www.breitbart.com/national-s...se-dna-report/

                    Probably not what she was expecting.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      I think it's more of a case that multiple polls show that something like 10% of Native Americans are offended by sports teams with names like "Indians," "Chiefs," "Apaches," "Seminoles" etc. while another 10% actually like them and 80% really don't care.
                      One difference between the terms you list here and Redskins is that Indians, Chiefs, Apaches, and Seminoles are all, in and of themselves, neutral terms. No one really cares if you use those terms generally (outside of maybe the people who insist you use "Native American" rather than "Indian" I suppose). Redskin, however, is an outright pejorative.

                      That said, and admittedly speaking as a non-Native American, I don't really have much of an issue with the team names outside of perhaps Redskins. Chief Wahoo really should be retired completely, though, that's just uncomfortable to look at.

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                      • #71
                        This thread is hilarious. Warren proves her claims of native American decent are true, which many people here and elsewhere had mocked her for. And instead of contrite apologies, the conservative posters' reactions have been the kind that might make a casual reader of the thread think her claims had been disproven rather than proven. The unintentional self-parody from you guys is hilarious.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          The Democrat reaction to Lizzie's announcement can be summarized as

                          ""

                          https://www.breitbart.com/national-s...se-dna-report/

                          Probably not what she was expecting.
                          Some are upset that she didn't wait until after the mid-terms to make her announcement describing it a distraction.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            This thread is hilarious. Warren proves her claims of native American decent are true, which many people here and elsewhere had mocked her for. And instead of contrite apologies, the conservative posters' reactions have been the kind that might make a casual reader of the thread think her claims had been disproven rather than proven. The unintentional self-parody from you guys is hilarious.
                            The casual reader here understands the criteria for legally claiming such heritage, and that her results fall well short of that. Feel free to continue flaunting your ignorance, however.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              This thread is hilarious. Warren proves her claims of native American decent are true, which many people here and elsewhere had mocked her for. And instead of contrite apologies, the conservative posters' reactions have been the kind that might make a casual reader of the thread think her claims had been disproven rather than proven. The unintentional self-parody from you guys is hilarious.
                              What she "proved" is that she may have a very distant ancestor that was indigenous to North or even South America and has considerably less native American ancestry than the typical white American does. Calling herself a Native American as she has done in the past -- based largely on her "high cheekbones" (talk about your racial stereotyping) -- and used it to advance her career and profit by it, is not in any way alleviated by this stunt.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                This thread is hilarious. Warren proves her claims of native American decent are true,
                                Except she didn't, beyond what any other white Anglo-Saxon could "prove".

                                which many people here and elsewhere had mocked her for.
                                She claimed minority status, which was bogus.

                                And instead of contrite apologies, the conservative posters' reactions have been the kind that might make a casual reader of the thread think her claims had been disproven rather than proven. The unintentional self-parody from you guys is hilarious.
                                Starlight, I'm so very sorry you're incapable of grasping the intensity of your profound wrongness on this, sir. How's that for an apology?
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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