Warren calls Trumps bluff, proves native american heritage.

[Cow Poke]

Looks like JimL is missing his daily dose of MSNBC:

“Did [Elizabeth Warren] gain anything by putting out this DNA test’s results? … I think I might be just as Native American as she is.” —black MSNBC anchor Craig Melvin

But has Rachel weighed in yet? Maybe that's where he's getting his "news".

[Mountain Man]

But has Rachel weighed in yet?

Just as soon as the Democrat party writes her scripts.

[Bill the Cat]

What are you talking about? READ THE SOURCE posted above by Rogue and Mountain Man. SHE actually claimed to be a native american in college to get minority status and advantages. That is not merely claiming indian ancestry somewhere down the line, that is claiming to actually BE an Indian. 1/64th to 1/1024th doesn't make someone an Indian.

You and I probably have more Indian blood than she does. My family comes from Appalachia which mixed with Indians and blacks regularly. So much so that they are known as melungeons.

Yet I can't claim to be an Indian or get minority status.

But you have such high cheek bones!!???

[Sparko]

I guess I'll have to assume by this then that you are not just playing dumb.

and you are ignoring the fact she actually claimed to be Native American to get minority status in college. that is more than just claiming some distant ancestor was Indian.

[Mountain Man]

She even published a recipe in the Native American cookbook call "Pow Wow Chow" (btw, the use of "pow wow" is considered culturally insensitive in such a manner because it denigrates the long, cultural significance of the pow wow).

Speaking of Pow Wow Chow, it seems that Warren's submissions were blatantly plagiarized word-for-word from the pages of a local newspaper and the Better Homes and Garden Cookbook. The recipes are signed "Elizabeth Warren - Cherokee".

Even more bizarre is her husband's submission, also plagiarized, for Oriental Stir Fry (in an Indian cookbook?) where he, too, identifies himself as Cherokee.

[Mountain Man]

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(For our non-American friends, that's Maury Povich, an American television talk show host who regularly runs "Who's your baby's daddy?" episodes that uses DNA to determine parentage. It's more of a freak show than a talk show.)

[oxmixmudd]

Fake news. Trump unequivocally denounced David Duke on multiple occasions -- both before and after the dishonest media tried to make it an issue -- and he called out all perpetrators of violence at the Charlottesville riot, which angered liberals who thought their own Antifa rioters should have gotten a free pass.

I was there, remember? I remember the endorsement. I remember Trump pretending he didn't know who he was. I remember how it took significantly longer than it would have any reasonable person to denounce it. And then only as the exhasperation over his refusal to denounce began to become intolerable. So please, try your whitewash the events on someone else.

And I refuse to play the 'the other side is a demon' game. There is plenty of bigotry, violence, and hatred being spewed on fronts.

We agree antifa is bad and looking the other way with their antics is bad. But that isn't enough. I must also ignore the excesses on the other side if I am to be an acceptable participant here.

No way.

Jim

[Jedidiah]

This thread is hilarious. Warren proves her claims of native American decent are true, which many people here and elsewhere had mocked her for. And instead of contrite apologies, the conservative posters' reactions have been the kind that might make a casual reader of the thread think her claims had been disproven rather than proven. The unintentional self-parody from you guys is hilarious.

The only thing Warren proved was the high degree of stupidity. My lily white grand daughter has more 'native American' genetics than Warren.

[One Bad Pig]

And I refuse to play the 'the other side is a demon' game. There is plenty of bigotry, violence, and hatred being spewed on fronts.

We agree antifa is bad and looking the other way with their antics is bad. But that isn't enough. I must also ignore the excesses on the other side if I am to be an acceptable participant here.

No way.

Jim

No, the game you're playing is the false moral equivalence game. Violence coming from either side is, of course, wrong. Pretending similar levels of violence are coming from both sides is disingenuous at best; on the right, it's rather fringe, but on the left, calls for violence and incivility go all the way to the top.

[oxmixmudd]

Because there was no reluctance. Trump repudiated Duke. And that's not "republicans". That's Trump.

I was there. As I said to MM. If what happened didn't look like reluctance to you, then we have different definitions of reluctance.

I have an old High School friend who is a Daughters of the Confederacy member and was at the Charlottesville rally to support the Confederate flag and statues, not the White Supremacists. She is a decent lady. So, yes. I can PERSONALLY say there was at least one good person in the crowd. Unlike the lefties, not everyone has to tow the entire event's line to be welcome.

I'm sure there were many both black and white that were basically good people there to protest either the statue's or their removal. Those were not the people that created the hostilities. The Neo Nazi's and White Nationalists clashing with Antifa and BLM where the hostile actors there. One can't justify one side without justifying the other. And one should not condemn one side w/o condemning the other.

However, and there is one important difference here. WN and Neo Nazi's stand for the continuance of the oppression of all non-whites. Antifa/BLM stand for the equality of Black and Whites with the ideal of no prejudice and equality. So while BOTH have taken the bottom feeder's road in terms of tactics, the ideals of the one are despicable, and the ideals of the other laudable.

That's an excuse with zero substance. And it does not give any additional details of which "republicans" you are talking about.

In that I've given no additional details, you are correct. Not enough time BTC, and a strong sense of uselessness relative to the potential impact on the current audience al la the detailed analysis I did of the inauguration photos.

The big difference is that the left overwhelmingly supports BLM's tactics.

I doubt that. But they are far too willing to turn a blind eye to it.

Jim

[Jedidiah]

Name a time I have called for violence or retract your claim.

As far as I recall (which could I admit be in error) the only public calls for violence against political enemies have come from high profile liberals.

[Sparko]

But [do] you have such high cheek bones!!???

why yes, yes I do.

[Sparko]

So a girl wears a chinese dress to prom and she is accused of cultural appropriation, but Warren can claim she is a Cherokee Indian in a lawyer's guide in college and in cookbooks and in public and that is fine because she has 1% or less north or south american dna?

[Mountain Man]

I remember Trump pretending he didn't know who [David Duke] was. I remember how it took significantly longer than it would have any reasonable person to denounce it. And then only as the exhasperation over his refusal to denounce began to become intolerable. So please, try your whitewash the events on someone else.

Isn't it funny how your memory can play tricks on you? I, on the other hand, remember Trump getting fed up with liberals asking him if he would disavow David Duke even though he had repeatedly and explicitly disavowed him. And I even have the video to prove it.

We agree antifa is bad and looking the other way with their antics is bad. But that isn't enough. I must also ignore the excesses on the other side if I am to be an acceptable participant here.

No way.

I really have no idea what you're talking about.

[Cow Poke]

Even people in her own party think what she did was stupid...

"Argue the substance all you want, but why 22 days before a crucial election where we MUST win house and senate to save America, why did @SenWarren have to do her announcement now? Why can't Dems ever stay focused???" tweeted Jim Messina, former President Barack Obama's 2012 campaign manager.