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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwhere was Hillary when this went down?
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAside from the fact that nobody has seen Khashoggi since he's entered the Saudi consulate in Istanbul is there really any actual evidence he was killed, much less in the gruesome manner suggested? So far I haven't been able to find that any solid evidence has been offered in spite of the Erdoğan Administration saying they would produce it some 17 days ago. There has also been a lot of speculation about his smart watch being used to transmit his murder to the cloud or to his phone (which his fiance had) and bizarre claims that it was all videotaped as "proof" of the act (since the claim is that his dismembered body was smuggled out piece by piece it would seem that would be all that was needed). To date it seems that everything is what they "suspect" happened and what Turkish officials "believe" may have happened.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou pseudo christians have learned well how to twist ones words, i.e. to spin, which you call interpretation. The Saudi's brutally tortured and murdered this man who took a stance against the tyranny taking place in his own country. As Americans, or believers in democracy and freedom, you should be proud of such a one, instead of making excuses for his murderers. What Tass et al are saying is that the U.S. should condemn and exact consequences, political and or economic, on those who would use their power thusly. No one has said anything about assasination or about being the worlds police.Last edited by Tassman; 10-20-2018, 12:54 AM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThey learn from their buddy Obama who showed them how to actually go after the press that didn't obey. What they should do about the "innocent until proved guilty" Crown Prince is subject him to a limited 5 day investigation and conclude that no doubt "something happened" to Khashoggi but it can't determine exactly what or by whom...but it most certainly had nothing to do with the Crown Prince or his cronies. Then they can carry on selling arms to Saudi Arabia enabling it to continue targeting Yemen, thus ensuring the worst world man-man famine for a 100 years.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThey learn from their role-model Trump. What they should do about the "innocent until proved guilty" Crown Prince is subject him to a limited 5 day investigation and conclude that no doubt "something happened" to Khashoggi but it can't determine exactly what or by whom...but it most certainly had nothing to do with the Crown Prince or his cronies. Then they can carry on selling arms to Saudi Arabia enabling it to continue targeting Yemen, thus ensuring the worst world man-man famine for a 100 years.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post... What they should do about the "innocent until proved guilty"...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIt really is no surprise that you mock this bedrock principle of democracy. Much better to "hang 'em high" THEN get the facts, eh?
It does not one American any good to cover up the torture and killing of a US Journalist by a foreign government, no matter how much money they may provide the country or our president's personal fortune. I would think twice before speaking in defense of the president or the Saudi's on this one CP. And hopefully, for the sake of the country, he will in fact do the right thing here eventually.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe problem is that in this case that bedrock principle is being used as an excuse not to look into what happened.
It does not one American any good to cover up the torture and killing of a US Journalist by a foreign government, no matter how much money they may provide the country or our president's personal fortune.
I would think twice before speaking in defense of the president or the Saudi's on this one CP.
And hopefully, for the sake of the country, he will in fact do the right thing here eventually.
JimThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHabeas corpus
Hence, my statement above - Habeas corpus - which, from Latin, literally means "that you have the body" -- if he was killed in a fist fight, and not chopped up in little pieces, somebody should be able to produce the body.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLet me be clear for the Olympic-class conclusion jumpers here. I'm not buying the stories coming out of SaudiLand.
Hence, my statement above - Habeas corpus - which, from Latin, literally means "that you have the body" -- if he was killed in a fist fight, and not chopped up in little pieces, somebody should be able to produce the body.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostDon't worry, as soon as they've sewed the parts back together they'll present it for all the the world to see.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I don't think I can believe the Saudi's story, it doesn't make sense. He attacked a group of fifteen trained assassins who had no choice but to kill him and cut him into tiny pieces with a bone saw in self-defense?
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI don't think I can believe the Saudi's story, it doesn't make sense. He attacked a group of fifteen trained assassins who had no choice but to kill him and cut him into tiny pieces with a bone saw in self-defense?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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