Khashoggi

[Leonhard]

I think Pat Robertson is a conspiracy nutjob end-times freakshow.

What are you talking about. He commanded a hurricane not to hit America.

Source: Pat Robertson

In the name of Jesus, you Hurricane Florence, we speak to you in the name of Jesus, and we command the storm to cease its forward motion and go harmlessly into the Atlantic. Go up north away from land and veer off in the name of Jesus. We declare in the name of the lord that you shall go no farther, you shall do no damage in this area.

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[One Bad Pig]

So lets say it happened. Should it have any consequences? I don't mind the US not reacting right away, but waiting for an opportunity to make their disapproval known. Trump is known for saying one thing about a political leader in public, but doing things differently behind the scenes.

Lets say, that it happened as reported. Saudi men kidnapped an American journalist who was critical of the regime, tortured him to death, recorded it and leaked the recording of the persons screams. Should this have any consequences?

It wasn't an American journalist; it was a Saudi journalist who resided here because it wasn't safe for him to stay in SA.

[rogue06]

of course. The Saudi's should put the prince in prison if they want serve justice and to have good relations with the rest of the world and the USA.

That of course will never happen. Practically speaking the best we can hope for that he is publicly disgraced and removed from the line of succession.

[Cow Poke]

Here's some interesting commentary on this....



I'm always suspicious when the left rallies around a "martyr".

[Sparko]

What are you talking about. He commanded a hurricane not to hit America.

Source: Pat Robertson

In the name of Jesus, you Hurricane Florence, we speak to you in the name of Jesus, and we command the storm to cease its forward motion and go harmlessly into the Atlantic. Go up north away from land and veer off in the name of Jesus. We declare in the name of the lord that you shall go no farther, you shall do no damage in this area.

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well if God doesn't listen to Pat, then neither should we!

[Leonhard]

It wasn't an American journalist; it was a Saudi journalist who resided here because it wasn't safe for him to stay in SA.

Didn't know that details, thanks.

[Cow Poke]

What are you talking about. He commanded a hurricane not to hit America...

I ignore him. Totally. I often cringe when I hear what he has recently said.

[Cow Poke]

It wasn't an American journalist; it was a Saudi journalist who resided here because it wasn't safe for him to stay in SA.

For a moment there, I was thinking... wait, SOUTH AFRICA?!?!?!

[Leonhard]

Here's some interesting commentary on this....



I'm always suspicious when the left rallies around a "martyr".

To be honest I'm suspicious of this whisper campaign against him. It's usually part and parcel of new agencies who warn of 'endangering' the 100 billion dollar arms deal. So color me skeptical as well. Other places like Times of Israel are making the claim that he was a reformer, and did good work.

Without being an expert on him I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[One Bad Pig]

of course. The Saudi's should put the prince in prison if they want serve justice and to have good relations with the rest of the world and the USA.

That is highly unlikely to happen; MBS controls too much power. The best we're probably going to get is his understanding that he went too far, reining him in for the future.

[Cow Poke]

To be honest I'm suspicious of this whisper campaign against him.

Whisper campaign? I'm just looking at all sides, rather than be railroaded by the MSM.

It's usually part and parcel of new agencies who warn of 'endangering' the 100 billion dollar arms deal. So color me skeptical as well. Other places like Times of Israel are making the claim that he was a reformer, and did good work.

Without being an expert on him I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Like I said - any time the left rallies around a "martyr", I fee the need to do a little more checking.

[Leonhard]

I'm always suspicious when the left rallies around a "martyr".

Here's what Times of Israel wrote in response https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ar...mal-khashoggi/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ar...mal-khashoggi/

Source: Times of Israel

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[Cow Poke]

Here's what Times of Israel wrote in response https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ar...mal-khashoggi/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ar...mal-khashoggi/

Source: Times of Israel

[U]

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Thanks

[rogue06]

Here's what Times of Israel wrote in response https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ar...mal-khashoggi/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-ar...mal-khashoggi/

Source: Times of Israel

[U]

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If the Muslim Brotherhood is "mainstream" in a number of Islamic countries that is a scary indictment of what is regarded as "mainstream" in Islam itself.

Btw, I think the Saudis changed their opinion about the group when they were instrumental in overthrowing Hosni Mubarak in Egypt not wanting to see such revolutions spread -- especially to Saudi Arabia

[Tassman]

It wasn't an American journalist; it was a Saudi journalist who resided here because it wasn't safe for him to stay in SA.

https://qz.com/1428499/jamal-khashog...-constitution/