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“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostWell, you’re doing much better than me by the sound of it. More of this story a bit later I think.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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In case you were wondering what was the connection between the great bishop and theologian Hugh William Montefiore (born Hugh William Sebag-Montefiore) and the author Hugh Sebag-Montefiore, it turns out that the father of Hugh the author, one Stephen Eric Sebag-Montefiore, was descended from a line of wealthy Sephardic Jews who were diplomats and bankers all over Europe. At the start of the 19th century, his great-great uncle, Sir Moses Montefiore, became a banking partner of N M Rothschild & Sons. His mother, Phyllis April Jaffé comes from a Lithuanian Jewish family of poor scholars. Her parents fled the Russian Empire at the turn of the 20th century. They bought tickets for New York City, but were cheated, being instead dropped off at Cork, Ireland. During the Limerick Pogrom of 1904 they left Ireland and moved to Newcastle, England. The father of his namesake, Bishop of Birmingham Hugh Montefiore, was the great-great-nephew of Sir Moses.
I’ve been reading his obituary, Hugh William’s here:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/200...aries.religion
We need more clergy like this.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostWe need more clergy like this.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIn case you were wondering what was the connection between the great bishop and theologian Hugh William Montefiore (born Hugh William Sebag-Montefiore) and the author Hugh Sebag-Montefiore, it turns out that the father of Hugh the author, one Stephen Eric Sebag-Montefiore, was descended from a line of wealthy Sephardic Jews who were diplomats and bankers all over Europe. At the start of the 19th century, his great-great uncle, Sir Moses Montefiore, became a banking partner of N M Rothschild & Sons. His mother, Phyllis April Jaffé comes from a Lithuanian Jewish family of poor scholars. Her parents fled the Russian Empire at the turn of the 20th century. They bought tickets for New York City, but were cheated, being instead dropped off at Cork, Ireland. During the Limerick Pogrom of 1904 they left Ireland and moved to Newcastle, England. The father of his namesake, Bishop of Birmingham Hugh Montefiore, was the great-great-nephew of Sir Moses.
I’ve been reading his obituary, Hugh William’s here:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/200...aries.religion
We need more clergy like this.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View Post“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOnly if you want Christianity to have a semblance of relevance in the modern era. But we don't want that do we, given the harm religion does.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostReligion is a blended mixture that may be sweet or sour. It cannot be got rid of, so we need to promote the good stuff when we find it. I wonder if the pure substance cannot be distilled and has no name.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostReligion as defined, namely: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods" has become irrelevant in many places...e.g. my country of Australia. No doubt there will always be pockets of it, even in the most advanced secular societies, just as thee are those who continue to believe paranormal nonsense such as tarot cards or astrology, but they tend to remain on the fringes of society.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIt helps me to listen to or read other points of view. At the moment I am listening to a BBC R4 programme called ‘How to be a Muslim Woman’. It is very surprising.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostReligion as defined, namely: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods" has become irrelevant in many places...e.g. my country of Australia. No doubt there will always be pockets of it, even in the most advanced secular societies, just as thee are those who continue to believe paranormal nonsense such as tarot cards or astrology, but they tend to remain on the fringes of society.
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I hear today that Trump wants to find a way to give US based cleric Fethullah Gulen to Erdogan so that Erdogan will stop banging on about Khashoggi and embarrassing the murderous MbS. This is how tyrants cooperate.Last edited by firstfloor; 11-16-2018, 11:42 AM.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostI hear today that Trump wants to find a way to give US based cleric Fethullah Gulen to Erdogan so that Erdogan will stop banging on about Khashoggi and embarrassing the murderous MbS. This is how tyrants cooperate.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou really need to widen your circle of acquaintances.“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostBut it looks like Erdogan does not want to join Trump's disgusting plot.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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