I Wish The Elephants Had Trampled...

[seer]

Tass has shown you over and over that you are wrong about what Jews believed and taught about life of the fetus and abortion. Yet in every conversation you trot out the same lies. You are a dishonest hack and a dispicable person who promotes men lording it over women as if they are not capable of making these choices for themselves which to them makes you the lowest form of pond scum.

So Jim, do you believe that killing millions of our own offspring is a moral good? A moral evil? Morally neutral?

[JimL]

So Jim, do you believe that killing millions of our own offspring is a moral good? A moral evil? Morally neutral?

Seer, you're assuming in this question that I think about the fetus the same way as you do.

[seer]

Seer, you're assuming in this question that I think about the fetus the same way as you do.

It was a simple question, an innocent human life is being taken, mostly for the sake of convenience. So is it is a morally good act? A morally evil act? Or a morally neutral act?

[mossrose]

Christianity is grounded in Judaism and it's bible.

Wrong. Christianity is grounded in Christ. Who told the religious leaders of His day their traditions were wicked.
You are also wicked and God will certainly judge you unless you repent if your sin and believe in Christ.

[mossrose]

Seer, you're assuming in this question that I think about the fetus the same way as you do.

So my idea of culling the elephant herd by killing the elephant fetuses before they are born is agreeable to you, then.

Got it.

[JimL]

It was a simple question, an innocent human life is being taken, mostly for the sake of convenience. So is it is a morally good act? A morally evil act? Or a morally neutral act?

You're still making the same mistake. I don't consider the fetus to be a human being, I consider it to be a fetus, not a being. So your question is pointless. And many women apparently believe the same and don't need you to tell them what to do with their own bodies under their own circumstances.

[JimL]

So my idea of culling the elephant herd by killing the elephant fetuses before they are born is agreeable to you, then.

Got it.

Well if a herd needed culling, then that would be the most humane way to do it now, don't you think?

[seer]

You're still making the same mistake. I don't consider the fetus to be a human being, I consider it to be a fetus, not a being. So your question is pointless. And many women apparently believe the same and don't need you to tell them what to do with their own bodies under their own circumstances.

So you don't consider him/her a human life? What is it, plant life? So to you the taking of an innocent human life is a morally neutral act?

[mossrose]

Well if a herd needed culling, then that would be the most humane way to do it now, don't you think?

Tell that to animal rights activists.

Unless they are as morally bankrupt as you are (which is likely, since animals are obviously more important that humans in their minds).

[rogue06]

believehttps://www.myjewishlearning.com/art...ewish-thought/

You keep bleating about this imaginary 4000 year tradition when I have provided you sources from around the time of Christ abortion was called murder and was thought as such by those who commented on it in the early Christian Church.

• Sibylline Oracles
• Pseudo-Phocylides
• Flavius Josephus
• Didache
• Apocalypse of Peter
• Epistle of Barnabas
• Athenagoras of Athens
• Clement of Alexandria
• Hippolytus of Rome
• Basil the Great
• John Chrysostom

That sort of puts the lie to your claim.

[rogue06]

You should care what Jewish tradition says. Christianity is grounded in Judaism and it's bible.

Not. Even. Close.

As the scientist Per Ahlberg repeatedly says: "First understand, then criticize; not the other way round!"

[JimL]

Tell that to animal rights activists.

I'm sure they'd agree that destroying fetuses would be more humane than killing actually independent living animals.

Unless they are as morally bankrupt as you are (which is likely, since animals are obviously more important that humans in their minds).

Such a silly little girl you are mossy. Like I always say, when I see that you pseudo christians actually care for those who are actually living then, and only then, would I take your feigned concern for fetuses seriously.

[mossrose]

I'm sure they'd agree that destroying fetuses would be more humane than killing actually independent living animals.

That's what I said. They are as morally bankrupt as you.

Such a silly little girl you are mossy. Like I always say, when I see that you pseudo christians actually care for those who are actually living then, and only then, would I take your feigned concern for fetuses seriously.

So, you think that "real Christians" are the ones that are compromising with the culture and accepting everything that God calls evil. Well, you can go ahead and think that, but once again, silly little boy, you are wrong, to your own eternal detriment.

[Sparko]

I'm sure they'd agree that destroying fetuses would be more humane than killing actually independent living animals.

so what you are saying is that if you want to prevent an animal from existing, killing it when it is a fetus is equivalent to killing the adult, but more "humane"

You just admitted that the fetus is a living creature of the same species as the adult.

[One Bad Pig]

once again, silly little boy, you are wrong, to your own eternal detriment.

Please don't descend to JimL's level. He'll beat you with experience.