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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI just get so tired of some of the liberal posters here ranting and lying about how we (me, specifically) support Trump "no matter what". I appreciate your calm reasoned response, so I'm obviously not talking about you."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostNope. I don't support a side. You guys are to stuck in the "Us and them" logic.
If you think I support Democrats because I find it wrong that Trump praises the assult of a reporter you have way too simple view on reality.
How are they ralated? Did Trump praise them too?
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have done nothing to suggest the crime was a recent act. What I have done is to point to Trump's very recent praise of it.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostActions speak louder than words, Charles.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI am quite confident you know full well I don't think that.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou can't possibly be that dense.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWhat 'very recent' praise? Your OP is from May, 2017. It also phrased things as current events.Last edited by Charles; 10-20-2018, 04:16 PM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI'd say its overreacting to call what Trump said a 'celebration of violence', though I'd also say that I don't think what he said was good either.
“Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy,” Trump said to applause. “I shouldn’t say that — (but) there’s nothing to be embarrassed about.”
Trump said he initially thought Gianforte’s act of violence would hurt his election chances, but “then I said, ‘Well, wait a minute, I know Montana pretty well, I think it might help him.’ And it did!” Trump said. “He’s a great guy. Tough cookie.” https://nypost.com/2018/10/18/trump-...y-kind-of-guy/
At that point, Gianforte grabbed Jacobs by the neck with both hands and slammed him into the ground behind him. Faith, Keith and I watched in disbelief as Gianforte then began punching the reporter. As Gianforte moved on top of Jacobs, he began yelling something to the effect of, "I'm sick and tired of this!" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gre...-slam-reporterLast edited by Charles; 10-20-2018, 04:42 PM."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostTake your relativism and whataboutism elsewhere. What you mention is important but off topic in this thread.
So you think it is a good thing to praise the assult on a reporter? Attacking a reporter is a relatively mild incident? Calling someone who attacks a reporter a great guy is good? Your president congratulates a criminal and you are ok with it? It is interesting to note that absolutely nothing seems to stop you from supporting Trump."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostTrumps praise of this violent and illegal act is very recent. The idea that it somehow makes it better that the crime he praises was commited over a year ago is beyond me. As well as the idea that a president's praise of the assult on a reporter is "much ado about nothing".
You never get tired of whataboutism and relatism, do you? Are you ever going to concern yourself or us with any thoughts on what is right or wrong in all cases? It seems you simply cannot even start to adress the idea that Trump did anything wrong. All you can do is point to someone who did something worse and focus on that instead. It is pushing for lower standards and for relativism. It has got nothing to do with serious debate nor has it got anything to do with ethics or a Christian world view. I think you have confused the kingdom of God with Trump being in power.
You are the one who does not want to start a thread about the other topics. I have encouraged you to do so but of course you would rather use it to distract from a discussion on Trump's actions.
Would you mind telling us what is funny about praising a guy who assulted a raporter and refusing to regret it afterwards. Do you, as a Christian, actually think that is funny?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou know Chuck has lost the debate when he pulls out the "no true Christian" fallacy."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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I like how so many people who would usually disagree actually do agree on this specific matter. I just read this interesting take on Trumps praise of the assult on a reporter on Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/a-f...%20-%20Text%29
It is called "A free press, like it or not" and is written by Chris Stirewalt.
Here is a very interesting part of it:
Jacobs is a good reporter, and in our experience, a fair-minded one. He also did nothing wrong in the incident. He was respectfully doing his job, which is to ask questions of people in or seeking power.
But even if he wasn’t a good man or even if he was a liberal hack, that wouldn’t matter. The principle of a free press, like our other rights, are not the property of the government nor our fellow citizens. Nor is it conditional.
Gianforte’s campaign initially lied about the incident, claiming Jacobs had been the aggressor. When confronted with a recording and the eyewitness accounts of others in the room, Gianforte eventually owned up to his behavior, apologized and pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostIn this entire thread you have been unable to comment on the topic...
You just don't like what I have to say because it exposes liberal hypocrisy.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI did comment. I said that Trump's remark, and the context in which he made it (referring to a minor incident that happened over a year ago and which resulted in a misdemeanor, that is to say the legal equivalent of a slap on the wrist), neither surprises nor alarms me, nor does it justify liberal handwringing in light of Democrat leaders' continuing and active approval and encouragement of increasing violence against Republicans.
You just don't like what I have to say because it exposes liberal hypocrisy.
Here is Fox News' description of what happened:
At that point, Gianforte grabbed Jacobs by the neck with both hands and slammed him into the ground behind him. Faith, Keith and I watched in disbelief as Gianforte then began punching the reporter. As Gianforte moved on top of Jacobs, he began yelling something to the effect of, "I'm sick and tired of this!" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gre...-slam-reporter
And feel free to owe the fact that you have no problem with this:
“Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy,” Trump said to applause. “I shouldn’t say that — (but) there’s nothing to be embarrassed about.”
Trump said he initially thought Gianforte’s act of violence would hurt his election chances, but “then I said, ‘Well, wait a minute, I know Montana pretty well, I think it might help him.’ And it did!” Trump said. “He’s a great guy. Tough cookie.” https://nypost.com/2018/10/18/trump-...y-kind-of-guy/"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostHere is Fox News' description of what happened...Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIf that were accurate then Gianforte would have surely been convicted of felony assault. The fact that he wasn't, and that the reporter did not sustain serious injuries consistent with being choked and repeatly punched should make you question FOX News' description of events.
“Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy,” Trump said to applause. “I shouldn’t say that — (but) there’s nothing to be embarrassed about.”
Trump said he initially thought Gianforte’s act of violence would hurt his election chances, but “then I said, ‘Well, wait a minute, I know Montana pretty well, I think it might help him.’ And it did!” Trump said. “He’s a great guy. Tough cookie.” https://nypost.com/2018/10/18/trump-...y-kind-of-guy/"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou know Chuck has lost the debate whenhe pulls out the "no true Christian" fallacyhe starts talking/typing.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostAs I have already showed there are other witnesses saying the same...
As for Trump making light of it, I don't care. That's just Trump being Trump; it's harmless rhetoric. I care much more about the epidemic of escalating violence against Republicans that is openly encouraged by Democrat leaders.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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