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    Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/politics/steve-king-neonazi-tweet-republicans.html



    Steve King’s Inflammatory Behavior Is Met With Silence From G.O.P.

    June 15, 2018

    WASHINGTON — When Arthur Jones, a Holocaust denier, ran as a Republican in an Illinois congressional primary, the state Republican Party denounced him as a Nazi. When he won, party leaders quickly vowed to back an independent candidate.

    When Paul Nehlen, a white supremacist and anti-Semite, decided to seek the House seat that is being vacated by Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, Republican leaders there said he had “no place in the Republican Party.”

    But when Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa, retweeted a Nazi sympathizer this week, the House Republican leadership and his fellow Iowa Republicans on Capitol Hill were silent.

    Fringe candidates have always run in both parties. Marginalized or ignored, they almost always fade from view. But in the era of President Trump, at a time when white supremacists feel emboldened and an anti-immigrant fervor has gripped the Republican Party, Republican leaders are increasingly forced to make choices about how to react to hateful remarks.

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    In Mr. King’s case, his eight-term incumbency and his own history of racist comments — he once compared immigrants to dogs, not to mention the time he said they had “calves the size of cantaloupes” from hauling marijuana “across the desert” — seem to protect him. People are so used to him being offensive that they just shrug their shoulders and move on.

    “We’ve gotten to the point with Congressman King that many people almost expect this sort of behavior out of him,” said Nick Ryan, a Republican strategist in Iowa who has been a vocal critic of Mr. King. “So when he does something that’s inappropriate or outlandish, many people in leadership have chosen to turn their heads the other way, because they don’t know how else to deal with him.”

    In a brief hallway interview outside the House chamber, an unapologetic Mr. King said he was unaware that the man he retweeted, Mark Collett, is a well-known British white supremacist who has spoken admiringly of Adolf Hitler and was once featured in a documentary called “Young, Nazi and Proud.”

    Mr. King said he simply wanted to publicize an article that Mr. Collett had highlighted from the right-wing website Breitbart News Network, which warned about the dangers of immigration in Europe. The congressman paired his retweet of Mr. Collett with his own comment: “Europe is waking up … Will America … In time?” He later shared the Breitbart article on his Twitter account, with a similar message.

    “It’s the message, not the messenger,” Mr. King said in the interview.

    Mr. King was not the only Republican making party leaders uncomfortable this week. In Virginia, Corey Stewart, a hard-right fringe candidate who has a history of cozying up to white nationalists, won the Republican primary for Senate on Tuesday. (Mr. Stewart once called Mr. Nehlen “one of my personal heroes,” though he later disavowed him.) Though Mr. Trump congratulated Mr. Stewart, others in the party sounded aghast.

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    Do we have any Iowa Republicans here that can shed some light on Mr. Steve King.
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    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

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      Seems a bit rude of you to think highly enough of the New York Times to promote one of their articles but not to disable adblock for their site.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
        Seems a bit rude of you to think highly enough of the New York Times to promote one of their articles but not to disable adblock for their site.
        I believe the problems I am referring to are factual regardless of which newspaper reported them.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

        Frank

        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
          Seems a bit rude of you to think highly enough of the New York Times to promote one of their articles but not to disable adblock for their site.
          By the way, can you cite any point in the New York news article that is false?
          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

          go with the flow the river knows . . .

          Frank

          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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          • #6
            This article seems to misrepresent things.

            I wasn't aware that the Republicans were anti-immigrant. Nor did the article show some drastic increase in support for extremist viewpoints. Was there some detail that seems to justify a big concern that led you to post here?

            It seems a rare expectation for Democrats or Republicans to speak against other representatives in their parties seeing that the parties are often focused on getting majority votes on bills that are typically divided on party lines. Should Democrat party members reject the communists and socialists among them because of these extreme views? Is this what you are advocating?

            Often people could vote for a candidate that isn't ideal yet is a person better than the candidate of the opposing party. I suppose that is partly where your question lies, since you wanted someone to post who was more familiar with the situation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
              By the way, can you cite any point in the New York news article that is false?
              I don't really have any opinion on it one way or the other. I just found the adblock thing really amusing.

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              • #8
                The Readers' Digest of the article is:

                Why aren't fringe extremists not marginalized in Congress?

                Oh, they are marginalized, as seen of this congressman who has been there 15 years without being promoted to key roles.

                Next time, read the Readers' Digest version.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                  This article seems to misrepresent things.

                  I wasn't aware that the Republicans were anti-immigrant. Nor did the article show some drastic increase in support for extremist viewpoints. Was there some detail that seems to justify a big concern that led you to post here?

                  It seems a rare expectation for Democrats or Republicans to speak against other representatives in their parties seeing that the parties are often focused on getting majority votes on bills that are typically divided on party lines. Should Democrat party members reject the communists and socialists among them because of these extreme views? Is this what you are advocating?

                  Often people could vote for a candidate that isn't ideal yet is a person better than the candidate of the opposing party. I suppose that is partly where your question lies, since you wanted someone to post who was more familiar with the situation.
                  Still nothing questioning the factual content of the article.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    Still nothing questioning the factual content of the article.
                    The one you misrepresent, as usual, with your headline?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                      This article seems to misrepresent things.

                      I wasn't aware that the Republicans were anti-immigrant.
                      The left typically tries to twist being anti-illegal immigration into being anti-immigration. Just look at the reaction to when Trump called MS-13 "animals" where the MSM and Democrats (no real difference any more) reported it as Trump calling immigrants "animals."

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