Midterms and Discord

[carpedm9587]

Sure, but you're proving my point. If the minority party, the republicans, have taught the majority party, the democrats, a powerful lesson here, then it is the republicans who are the guilty party here, not the democrats.

And the Democrats will (and do) do the same thing in reverse. Look at Maryland.

I do not see either party as being particularly righteous, Jim. They both cheat - they both lie - they both manipulate.

[carpedm9587]

Did you miss the last election, JimL?

You mean the one that failed to secure the popular vote?

[carpedm9587]

Go post this somewhere:

"We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."
-President Donald Trump

and watch liberal heads explode. Then once the commotion dies down, say, "Oh, sorry, that was actually President Bill Clinton!" and then watch their heads explode all over again.

Anyone with an ounce of sense would have known immediately that the quote was not from Donald Trump.

After all - it contains complete sentences.

[rogue06]

You mean the one that failed to secure the popular vote?

Again, like listening to someone incapable of handling the fact that their baseball team lost since they got more hits.

[Mountain Man]

Again, like listening to someone incapable of handling the fact that their baseball team lost since they got more hits.

"What do you mean we lost? We had 18 hits, and they only scored 9 runs! That's so unfair!"

[carpedm9587]

Again, like listening to someone incapable of handling the fact that their baseball team lost since they got more hits.

I am perfectly capable of handling the fact that Trump won, Rogue. I don't like it - but it's life. The discussion was about which party was the "majority party." Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 12M, which is close to 25%. Appealing to the 2016 election does nothing to prove that Republicans are "the majority party" (which was the issue at hand) because they didn't even get the popular vote. There is pretty much no metric against which Republicans can be said to be "the majority."

The incredible Republican wins in the past decade have more to do with incredibly clever political maneuvering than any claim of being "the majority party."

[carpedm9587]

"What do you mean we lost? We had 18 hits, and they only scored 9 runs! That's so unfair!"

I do not believe you will find any post in which I used the term "unfair." "Unfair" is the siren song of the toddler. I never tolerated it from my kids. I don't use it. I don't tolerate it from the current commander in chief - who just LOVES to use it regularly.

[Sparko]

You mean the one that failed to secure the popular vote?

Gee, did they not use a popular vote to vote in congress? I must have missed that.

[One Bad Pig]

I am perfectly capable of handling the fact that Trump won, Rogue. I don't like it - but it's life. The discussion was about which party was the "majority party." Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by about 12M, which is close to 25%. Appealing to the 2016 election does nothing to prove that Republicans are "the majority party" (which was the issue at hand) because they didn't even get the popular vote. There is pretty much no metric against which Republicans can be said to be "the majority."

The incredible Republican wins in the past decade have more to do with incredibly clever political maneuvering than any claim of being "the majority party."

I do not believe you will find any post in which I used the term "unfair." "Unfair" is the siren song of the toddler. I never tolerated it from my kids. I don't use it. I don't tolerate it from the current commander in chief - who just LOVES to use it regularly.

It seems to me, in both of these cases, that you're misreading people who are agreeing with you for once; their quips are not directed at you, but the one to whom you replied.

[Cow Poke]

You mean the one that failed to secure the popular vote?

You mean the one where both sides were after electoral college votes, not the popular vote, because that's how the election is won.

[JimL]

Counterexample of extreme and ridiculous democrat gerrymandering

Yes, you are showing me one extreme case, and I understand that Democrats are guilty of it as well, heck, they started it, way back in the 1800's I believe. But the Republicans have taken it to a whole new level, and that, along with all of their voter suppression tactics, is completely undermining the democratic process. Democrat voters far outnumber republicans nationally, and yet we have a republican president, and in many states democrat voters outnumber republican voters and yet they have less representation in those state legislatures. And btw, every election cycle you see the republicans coming up with new ways in their attempts at suppressing democrat voters which is not something you see the democrats doing to republican voters.

[firstfloor]

Are you... are you serious?

Even if a corrupt official were to stuff the ballot boxes, an election can still be valid.

[Cow Poke]

Even if a corrupt official were to stuff the ballot boxes, an election can still be valid.

wow

[One Bad Pig]

wow

As I've said many times, I find his trolling to be refreshingly obvious.