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The Simplicity of the Gospel in One Word

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    More of that "holier than thou" attitude.

    Yep - but at least the edit makes the thing coherent.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
      The LDS church as a whole has recieved a false Christ same with JW, and Word of Faith teachers, you're right. But Jed makes the good point that individuals within those groups may be "crypto-orthodox" if you will accept such a term.
      So then one has to discern, and know, who the true Christ is. So the gospel is not really explained in your one word as you claim.
      Last edited by FarEastBird; 05-04-2014, 07:20 AM.
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      • #33
        There is indeed more to the gospel than one word, I as a classical Pentecostal would use terms like "Savior," "Healer," "Baptizer," and "soon-coming King" in reference to Christ and His part as being the God with us. My point was that it is much simpler than you seemed to make it out to be.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Pentecost View Post
          There is indeed more to the gospel than one word, I as a classical Pentecostal would use terms like "Savior," "Healer," "Baptizer," and "soon-coming King" in reference to Christ and His part as being the God with us. My point was that it is much simpler than you seemed to make it out to be.
          You said it yourself above: "There is indeed more to the gospel than one word." Putting it in less words would ruin the real message of the gospel. It makes obvious to me that you would not have known the mystery of the kingdom of God, which is part of the gospel. Your way of putting the gospel in one word proves that you do not actually know what the gospel is all about.

          Hopefully you stop playing with the word of God, it is not a game.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
            You said it yourself above: "There is indeed more to the gospel than one word." Putting it in less words would ruin the real message of the gospel. It makes obvious to me that you would not have known the mystery of the kingdom of God, which is part of the gospel. Your way of putting the gospel in one word proves that you do not actually know what the gospel is all about.

            Hopefully you stop playing with the word of God, it is not a game.
            Should we be bowing before you? Perhaps kiss your big toe?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Should we be bowing before you? Perhaps kiss your big toe?
              No. I hope that you seek the truth, and not just merely assume, or pretend, that you are somebody else who knew.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                No. I hope that you seek the truth, and not just merely assume, or pretend, that you are somebody else who knew.
                And, perhaps one day you will realize you're just a sinner saved by grace --- if, indeed, you are saved.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  And, perhaps one day you will realize you're just a sinner saved by grace --- if, indeed, you are saved.
                  Salvation will be given to those who know the truth, not the pretenders who know the truth.

                  Accepting yourself as a sinner for not knowing why you are a sinner, will not stop you from sinning. If you are indeed freed from the bondage of sin, you will indeed be freed from sinning.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                    Salvation will be given to those who know the truth, not the pretenders who know the truth.

                    Accepting yourself as a sinner for not knowing why you are a sinner, will not stop you from sinning. If you are indeed freed from the bondage of sin, you will indeed be freed from sinning.
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                    • #40
                      Gnosticism.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                        Gnosticism.
                        Isn't that heretical? Or is that in reference to some guy's insistence that salvation is dependent on proper knowledge? Does he think that babies/fetuses are doomed if they die to their lack of knowing?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                          Salvation will be given to those who know the truth, not the pretenders who know the truth.

                          Accepting yourself as a sinner for not knowing why you are a sinner, will not stop you from sinning. If you are indeed freed from the bondage of sin, you will indeed be freed from sinning.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                            Isn't that heretical? Or is that in reference to some guy's insistence that salvation is dependent on proper knowledge? Does he think that babies/fetuses are doomed if they die to their lack of knowing?
                            I think FarEastBird is spouting heresy, yes.
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                            • #44
                              What in the world is he even talking about?
                              Salvation will be given to those who know the truth, not the pretenders who know the truth.

                              Accepting yourself as a sinner for not knowing why you are a sinner, will not stop you from sinning. If you are indeed freed from the bondage of sin, you will indeed be freed from sinning.
                              I have no clue what that is supposed to even mean. I would like to see him say what happens to dead babies and those otherwise incapable of making a decision. God is omniscient/. There is no way we could ever know all that He knows and He'd know all of our misconceptions.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by FarEastBird View Post
                                You said it yourself above: "There is indeed more to the gospel than one word." Putting it in less words would ruin the real message of the gospel. It makes obvious to me that you would not have known the mystery of the kingdom of God, which is part of the gospel. Your way of putting the gospel in one word proves that you do not actually know what the gospel is all about.

                                Hopefully you stop playing with the word of God, it is not a game.
                                I'm sorry I mispoke then. Because I do think knowing God is with us is the core of the Christian message Jesus came to us and was among us in the flesh and the Spirit is with us in well, spirit. Immanuel is the message and while you can explain that word ad naseum to mean so much more to give a more defined meaning. It is sufficient and I think you know exactly what I am getting at but don't want to understand it.

                                But frankly it is not an issue of knowledge, for do not even demons know there is one God? You are contorting the purpose of the words in the same way Simon the magus and Valentinus. Fore, I suspect that if I asked if you sin so that grace may abound that you would say "Yes!" As those other did as recorded by Irenaeus. Do you know you seem as a wolf in sheeps clothing?

                                @Christianbookworm Yes, he reminds me of the Gnostics as well as Jedediah and I believe him to be a modern revivalist of an old heresy condemned for millenia, just as the Arian JWs or Sabellian Oneness "Jesus Onlys."
                                Last edited by Pentecost; 05-06-2014, 03:49 AM.
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