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  • #91
    Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
    So has this executive order idea been abandoned? After all the initial hubbub, this whole thing just sort of weirdly faded away and I really haven't seen it mentioned by anyone in the last week.
    Of course not, the election is over. You don't hear about the caravan any more either.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Of course not, the election is over. You don't hear about the caravan any more either.
      I do hear about the declining morale of the troops who are sitting in dirt camps near the border twiddling their thumbs though. Turns out wasting military resources on election-stunts is not actually a good use for troops.
      Last edited by Starlight; 11-17-2018, 12:15 AM.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        I do hear about the declining morale of the troops who are sitting in dirt camps near the border twiddling their thumbs though. Turns out wasting military resources on election-stunts is not actually a good use for troops.
        I know, funny how conservatives here are always yapping about government waste unless it's their republican party wasting millions on political stunts like sending troops to do battle with the poor, starving, families invading the country, even though such use of the military is against the law, or years of ridiculous Benghazi hearings. Not to bright it seems these working class republicans.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          I do hear about the declining morale of the troops who are sitting in dirt camps near the border twiddling their thumbs though. Turns out wasting military resources on election-stunts is not actually a good use for troops.
          I take it you’ve never been in the military?
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • #95
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            I know, funny how conservatives here are always yapping about government waste unless it's their republican party wasting millions on political stunts like sending troops to do battle with the poor, starving, families invading the country, even though such use of the military is against the law, or years of ridiculous Benghazi hearings. Not to bright it seems these working class republicans.
            My dear Jimmy, many of them were living a middle class life in their home countries.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              I do hear about the declining morale of the troops who are sitting in dirt camps near the border twiddling their thumbs though. Turns out wasting military resources on election-stunts is not actually a good use for troops.
              In 1989 George H.W. Bush sent troops to the border. The left was silent.

              In 1994 Bill Clinton sent troops to the border. The left was silent.

              In 2006 George W. Bush sent troops to the border. The left was silent.

              In 2011 Barack Obama sent troops to the border. The left was silent.

              In 2018 Donald Trump sent troops to the border. The left goes into meltdown mode.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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              • #97
                Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                I take it you’ve never been in the military?
                But he has "War Made Easy: How Presidents & Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death" and "Born on the Fourth of July" on DVD and along with watching two or three YouTube videos makes him an expert.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  But he has "War Made Easy: How Presidents & Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death" and "Born on the Fourth of July" on DVD and along with watching two or three YouTube videos makes him an expert.
                  “Hurry up and wait” is the unofficial military slogan. I’ve spent plenty of time sitting on my hands under Obama too.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Of course not, the election is over. You don't hear about the caravan any more either.
                    because they haven't gotten here yet. When they do you will hear it all again.

                    Hey are you going to watch the Border Live show on Discovery?


                    Discovery's next show will be live from the US-Mexico border
                    New York (CNN)With immigration debates dominating the national conversation, the Discovery channel is introducing a six-part series that will air live from the U.S.-Mexico border region.
                    "Border Live," announced on Friday, will premiere in the first week of December. Lilia Luciano will report live from a different location along the border each week and Bill Weir will host the show from a studio in New York.
                    "There's so much conversation about what happens" along the border, Luciano said in an interview with CNN Business. "But it's rare to be able to immerse yourself for a lengthy period of time there."
                    Discovery executives said "Border Live" will not be a "political" show. But with President Trump stoking fears about migrants and making more promises about a southern border wall, it is bound to get attention. In the crowded cable TV space, that's surely the goal.

                    Nancy Daniels, the executive in charge of Discovery, said the series "will turn the lens on a group of people who live and work along the border that you wouldn't otherwise hear from."
                    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/02/media...nel/index.html

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                    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      I do hear about the declining morale of the troops who are sitting in dirt camps near the border twiddling their thumbs though. Turns out wasting military resources on election-stunts is not actually a good use for troops.
                      And I hear the exact opposite. That morale is fine and work is getting done. Oh, and I work with the military, so my intel is a bit better than yours.
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
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                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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                      • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        And I hear the exact opposite. That morale is fine and work is getting done. Oh, and I work with the military, so my intel is a bit better than yours.
                        Remember from whence Starlight gets his "intel".
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Of course not, the election is over. You don't hear about the caravan any more either.
                          Really? Just today from AP:

                          Source: Tijuana protesters chant 'Out!' at migrants camped in city


                          TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Hundreds of Tijuana residents congregated around a monument in an affluent section of the city south of California on Sunday to protest the thousands of Central American migrants who have arrived via caravan in hopes of a new life in the U.S.

                          Tensions have built as nearly 3,000 migrants from the caravan poured into Tijuana in recent days after more than a month on the road, and with many more months ahead of them while they seek asylum. The federal government estimates the number of migrants could soon swell to 10,000.

                          U.S. border inspectors are processing only about 100 asylum claims a day at Tijuana’s main crossing to San Diego. Asylum seekers register their names in a tattered notebook managed by migrants themselves that had more than 3,000 names even before the caravan arrived.

                          On Sunday, displeased Tijuana residents waved Mexican flags, sang the Mexican national anthem and chanted “Out! Out!” in front of a statue of the Aztec ruler Cuauhtemoc, 1 mile (1.6 kilometers) from the U.S. border. They accused the migrants of being messy, ungrateful and a danger to Tijuana. They also complained about how the caravan forced its way into Mexico, calling it an “invasion.” And they voiced worries that their taxes might be spent to care for the group.

                          “We don’t want them in Tijuana,” protesters shouted.

                          Juana Rodriguez, a housewife, said the government needs to conduct background checks on the migrants to make sure they don’t have criminal records.

                          A woman who gave her name as Paloma lambasted the migrants, who she said came to Mexico in search of handouts. “Let their government take care of them,” she told video reporters covering the protest.

                          A block away, fewer than a dozen Tijuana residents stood with signs of support for the migrants. Keyla Zamarron, a 38-year-old teacher, said the protesters don’t represent her way of thinking as she held a sign saying: Childhood has no borders.

                          Most of the migrants who have reached Tijuana via caravan in recent days set out more than a month ago from Honduras, a country of 9 million people. Dozens of migrants in the caravan who have been interviewed by Associated Press reporters have said they left their country after death threats.

                          But the journey has been hard, and many have turned around.

                          Alden Rivera, the Honduran ambassador in Mexico, told the AP on Saturday that 1,800 Hondurans have returned to their country since the caravan first set out on Oct. 13, and that he hopes more will make that decision. “We want them to return to Honduras,” said Rivera.



                          Source

                          © Copyright Original Source


                          [*Story continues at link above*]

                          If you just Google "caravan" and click "News" you'll see that there continues to be a slew of stories and from sources like NPR, CBS, NBC and the New York Times so it isn't just the handful of conservative news outlets covering it either.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Really? Just today from AP:

                            Source: Tijuana protesters chant 'Out!' at migrants camped in city


                            TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Hundreds of Tijuana residents congregated around a monument in an affluent section of the city south of California on Sunday to protest the thousands of Central American migrants who have arrived via caravan in hopes of a new life in the U.S.

                            Tensions have built as nearly 3,000 migrants from the caravan poured into Tijuana in recent days after more than a month on the road, and with many more months ahead of them while they seek asylum. The federal government estimates the number of migrants could soon swell to 10,000.

                            U.S. border inspectors are processing only about 100 asylum claims a day at Tijuana’s main crossing to San Diego. Asylum seekers register their names in a tattered notebook managed by migrants themselves that had more than 3,000 names even before the caravan arrived.

                            On Sunday, displeased Tijuana residents waved Mexican flags, sang the Mexican national anthem and chanted “Out! Out!” in front of a statue of the Aztec ruler Cuauhtemoc, 1 mile (1.6 kilometers) from the U.S. border. They accused the migrants of being messy, ungrateful and a danger to Tijuana. They also complained about how the caravan forced its way into Mexico, calling it an “invasion.” And they voiced worries that their taxes might be spent to care for the group.

                            “We don’t want them in Tijuana,” protesters shouted.

                            Juana Rodriguez, a housewife, said the government needs to conduct background checks on the migrants to make sure they don’t have criminal records.

                            A woman who gave her name as Paloma lambasted the migrants, who she said came to Mexico in search of handouts. “Let their government take care of them,” she told video reporters covering the protest.

                            A block away, fewer than a dozen Tijuana residents stood with signs of support for the migrants. Keyla Zamarron, a 38-year-old teacher, said the protesters don’t represent her way of thinking as she held a sign saying: Childhood has no borders.

                            Most of the migrants who have reached Tijuana via caravan in recent days set out more than a month ago from Honduras, a country of 9 million people. Dozens of migrants in the caravan who have been interviewed by Associated Press reporters have said they left their country after death threats.

                            But the journey has been hard, and many have turned around.

                            Alden Rivera, the Honduran ambassador in Mexico, told the AP on Saturday that 1,800 Hondurans have returned to their country since the caravan first set out on Oct. 13, and that he hopes more will make that decision. “We want them to return to Honduras,” said Rivera.



                            Source

                            © Copyright Original Source


                            [*Story continues at link above*]

                            If you just Google "caravan" and click "News" you'll see that there continues to be a slew of stories and from sources like NPR, CBS, NBC and the New York Times so it isn't just the handful of conservative news outlets covering it either.
                            And it's getting ugly.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Remember from whence Starlight gets his "intel".
                              What's wrong with Stephen Colbert and some Young Turk videos?

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                What's wrong with Stephen Colbert and some Young Turk videos?
                                Well, they're probably better than the source I had in mind.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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