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This forum is primarily for Christians to discuss matters of Christian doctrine, and is not the area for debate between atheists (or those opposing orthodox Christianity) and Christians. Inquiring atheists (or sincere seekers/doubters/unorthodox) seeking only Christian participation and having demonstrated a manner that does not seek to undermine the orthodox Christian faith of others are also welcome, but must seek Moderator permission first. When defining “Christian” or "orthodox" for purposes of this section, we mean persons holding to the core essentials of the historic Christian faith such as the Trinity, the Creatorship of God, the virgin birth, the bodily resurrection of Christ, the atonement, the future bodily return of Christ, the future bodily resurrection of the just and the unjust, and the final judgment. Persons not holding to these core doctrines are welcome to participate in the Comparative Religions section without restriction, in Theology 201 as regards to the nature of God and salvation with limited restrictions, and in Christology for issues surrounding the person of Christ and the Trinity. Atheists are welcome to discuss and debate these issues in the Apologetics 301 forum without such restrictions.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe Orthodox Study Bible really messes me up, because they stick extra books in the OT AND rearrange them (I understand they're placed in the traditional LXX order). The NT is from the NKJV, so that at least is normal.
My Stone Tanakh is also in a different order, being Jewish.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by seer View PostInteresting choice...Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIf you want to see what the Early Church REALLY was like....
And, step by step with Paul...what's not to like!"What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by Faber View PostII HezekiahLast edited by Cow Poke; 11-02-2018, 03:12 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhen I was a kid, my 107 year old* Sunday School teacher taught me - "General Electric Power Company" as a way to remember Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians. I have never forgotten that.
*slight exaggeration, but not by much
Usually Genesis, Psalms, or Galatians is where I have to start.......
Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostForgive my appalling ignorance, but which "extra" books in the OT? I'd be interested in reading them.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWell, this is annoying. I can't find a book list online. I did stumble across The Parallel Apocrypha, which appears to have everything. If I recall correctly, it's mostly coextensive with the Apocrypha found in the NRSV (which you can see at biblegateway.com) - I think the OSB may only have 1 and 2 Maccabees and 1 Esdras of those titles, and "Suzannah", "The Prayer of Azariah" and "Bel and the Dragon" are incorporated into Daniel (at the beginning, in the midst of the fiery furnace and at the end, respectively), not found separately. We use the Prayer of Azariah, the Prayer of Manasseh, and parts of the Wisdom of Solomon liturgically.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostI can sing all the books in order, but the trouble with that is that to remember where a particular book is when I'm looking something up is that I have to start at some point in the song and sing until I come to the book I want.
Usually Genesis, Psalms, or Galatians is where I have to start.......The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI've read The Wisdom of Solomon before--good stuff. It read like an extension of Proverbs, I thought.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Faber View PostI was listening to Alistair Begg (Scottish accent) one day and he was going to read from Sam 23. And I was wondering, is that 1 Sam or 2 Sam?
"The Lord is my Shepherd..."
Oh, THAT Sam.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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