Democrats, beware: We are leaning left too far

[Cow Poke]

Democrats, beware: We are leaning left too far

Interesting that even Ed Rendell - Former Democratic Pennsylvania Governor and self-confessed political junkie - points this out.

[Starlight]

I get bored of corporate democrat losers like this idiot writing puff propaganda pieces in which they slam Dems who advocate for popular policies. His advice that boils down to dropping policies that poll well with voters and instead just losing elections by running on Republican lite policies is a sure-fire loser. What a moron.

[Cow Poke]

I get bored of corporate democrat losers like this idiot writing puff propaganda pieces in which they slam Dems who advocate for popular policies. His advice that boils down to dropping policies that poll well with voters and instead just losing elections by running on Republican lite policies is a sure-fire loser. What a moron.

Ya know, Star "polices that poll well" or "popular polices" aren't necessarily the same as what's best for our Nation.

[Starlight]

Ya know, Star "polices that poll well" or "popular polices" aren't necessarily the same as what's best for our Nation.

Sure, the best policies (as seen empirically by the most successful countries like the Scandinavian ones) are further left than what polls well in the US, but the policies that poll well are further left than where the Dem party is currently at, so it's pretty obvious that Dems need to move further left.

Fortunately the up-and-coming younger generation of voters is more aware of international realities as they have friends online from other countries, so they can learn what works elsewhere in the Western world. And a survey of US 18-29-year-olds out this week shows strong support for Democratic Socialist policies:

US 18-29 yr-olds:

Trump approval: 26% total
Democratic-led congress: +34% points
Federal jobs guarantee: +36% points
Eliminating tuition and fees at public four-year colleges and universities: +36% points
Single Payer Health Care (also referred Medicare for all): +34% points
Requiring U.S. corporations with more than $1 Billion in revenue to allow their workers to elect 40 percent of the membership of their board of directors: +24% points
Building a militant and powerful labor movement in the United States rooted in the multi-racial working class: +18% points

[Cow Poke]

Always good to see you, Star.

[Psychic Missile]

It's false to say that liberals who favor single-payer healthcare, abolishing ICE, progressive taxes, universal income, etc are far left. That's just the regular left. The far right is composed of white supremacists, self-evident extremists. There isn't a common liberal counterpart. Also, I don't understand the moderate Democrat strategy to focus on bipartisan compromise. Republicans have fought as hard as they could to get their way and have succeeded again and again, and even their pie in sky promises like making abortion illegal or bringing God back into schools get butts into polls. They have proven that Democrats don't need to settle for less ideal policy. I hypothesize that it's coming from a place of self-serving neoliberal economics and lingering cold-war propaganda rather than practicality.

[Starlight]

It's false to say that liberals who favor single-payer healthcare, abolishing ICE, progressive taxes, universal income, etc are far left. That's just the regular left.

Majority of republicans support medicare for all, poll finds

Can a position supported by a majority of Republican voters be reasonably even called "left" rather than "centrist"? Never mind "far-left".

[Cow Poke]

It's false to say that liberals who favor single-payer healthcare, abolishing ICE, progressive taxes, universal income, etc are far left. That's just the regular left. The far right is composed of white supremacists, self-evident extremists. There isn't a common liberal counterpart. Also, I don't understand the moderate Democrat strategy to focus on bipartisan compromise. Republicans have fought as hard as they could to get their way and have succeeded again and again, and even their pie in sky promises like making abortion illegal or bringing God back into schools get butts into polls. They have proven that Democrats don't need to settle for less ideal policy. I hypothesize that it's coming from a place of self-serving neoliberal economics and lingering cold-war propaganda rather than practicality.

I'm just posting what one of your liberal biggies said, PM. You guys are free to duke it out.

[JimL]

I get bored of corporate democrat losers like this idiot writing puff propaganda pieces in which they slam Dems who advocate for popular policies. His advice that boils down to dropping policies that poll well with voters and instead just losing elections by running on Republican lite policies is a sure-fire loser. What a moron.

Exactly!

[JimL]

Ya know, Star "polices that poll well" or "popular polices" aren't necessarily the same as what's best for our Nation.

They aren't necessarily bad either, so what's your point?

[Cow Poke]

They aren't necessarily bad either, so what's your point?

Sorry you missed this post, Jim...

I'm just posting what one of your liberal biggies said, PM. You guys are free to duke it out.

[Psychic Missile]

I'm just posting what one of your liberal biggies said, PM. You guys are free to duke it out.

I wasn't specifically directing that at you, I was just saying what I think about the opinion piece.

[rogue06]

I get bored of corporate democrat losers like this idiot writing puff propaganda pieces in which they slam Dems who advocate for popular policies. His advice that boils down to dropping policies that poll well with voters and instead just losing elections by running on Republican lite policies is a sure-fire loser. What a moron.

I get bored of know-nothing posers, who pretend to be an expert on something because they watched a couple videos on YouTube and talk to their insular bubble of like-minded friends, pontificate on subjects that they are laughably ignorant of.

[JimL]

I get bored of know-nothing posers, who pretend to be an expert on something because they watched a couple videos on YouTube and talk to their insular bubble of like-minded friends, pontificate on subjects that they are laughably ignorant of.

Aw, don't be so hard on yourself, rogue.

[Cow Poke]

I wasn't specifically directing that at you, I was just saying what I think about the opinion piece.