Election: What Is Your Take...

[JimL]

you are correct. It is undemocratic.
BECAUSE WE ARE A FEDERAL REPUBLIC!

Explain the difference.

But it doesn't allow the minority dominance over the majority, it allows equal representation to each state regardless of size. It prevents the exact opposite.

The only reason we have a conservative SC is because a minority of the population has more representation in that regard than does the majority population. That has nothing to do with the interests of the states per se. Like I said, the democrat Senators who opposed Kavanaughs confirmation represented 42 million more people than did the republican Senators who confirmed him.

And the reason they instituted the House was to balance the representation of the people with the representation of the states.

Well, since the House has nothing to do with SC Justice confirmations, then that would be a moot point, don't you think?

[Sparko]

Explain the difference.

A true democracy is everyone has a say, all votes count. So you end up with a tyranny of the majority. We have a federal republic where each state has representatives in the government to allow equal voice to all of the states that make up the republic. The people of each state decide what they want, and their Senators and Representatives are supposed to convey those wishes in congress. And the idea behind it is that the people we elect are informed and not just blindly doing what they are told. Under a true democracy you have mob rule and pretty much IGNORANT UNINFORMED mob rule.

The only reason we have a conservative SC is because a minority of the population has more representation in that regard than does the majority population. That has nothing to do with the interests of the states per se. Like I said, the democrat Senators who opposed Kavanaughs confirmation represented 42 million more people than did the republican Senators who confirmed him.


Well, since the House has nothing to do with SC Justice confirmations, then that would be a moot point, don't you think?

If we had a true democracy, you atheists would have been deported long ago, or strung up from a tree. Are you sure you want a true democracy?

[seer]

If we had a true democracy, you atheists would have been deported long ago, or strung up from a tree. Are you sure you want a true democracy?

I have to think about that one... Maybe we could go back to Blasphemy laws...

[JimL]

A true democracy is everyone has a say, all votes count. So you end up with a tyranny of the majority. We have a federal republic where each state has representatives in the government to allow equal voice to all of the states that make up the republic. The people of each state decide what they want, and their Senators and Representatives are supposed to convey those wishes in congress. And the idea behind it is that the people we elect are informed and not just blindly doing what they are told. Under a true democracy you have mob rule and pretty much IGNORANT UNINFORMED mob rule

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So, in you federal republic, you have the tyranny of the majority within the states rather than within the country.

If we had a true democracy, you atheists would have been deported long ago, or strung up from a tree. Are you sure you want a true democracy?

Yes, we know all about the evil history of christians.

[Charles]

I have to think about that one... Maybe we could go back to Blasphemy laws...

Theocracy is comming to the USA.

[One Bad Pig]

Theocracy is comming to the USA.

Said no one with even the slightest grip on reality, ever. The forces who want this to happen have been on the losing end of virtually all cultural battles for the last half-century.

The only way this is ever at all likely to happen is if the USA becomes majority Muslim.

[Sparko]

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So, in you federal republic, you have the tyranny of the majority within the states rather than within the country.

no. You have equal representation among the states regardless of population in the Senate. And you have representation based on population in the House. It is a balance.

So in the EU, Do you think Germany should make all the rules since it has the most people and tell all the other countries what to do? And that China should run the United Nations?

Yes, we know all about the evil history of christians.

So? Do you want a majority rule or not? We outnumber you atheists by 90%+
No more abortions, no more atheists, no more gay weddings....

[Cow Poke]

Yes, we know all about the evil history of christians.

Says the anti-Christian bigot who is here for no other reason than to be a jackass.

[carpedm9587]

Said no one with even the slightest grip on reality, ever. The forces who want this to happen have been on the losing end of virtually all cultural battles for the last half-century.

The only way this is ever at all likely to happen is if the USA becomes majority Muslim.

No. The country has been majority Christian for a long, long time, and our country has survived it on the strength of our constitution. I have no reason to believe it would make one whit of difference if the country was majority Muslim. I would have to think "Islam bad" to think this. I see no reason to think Islam is any better/worse than Christianity.

[Sparko]

No. The country has been majority Christian for a long, long time, and our country has survived it on the strength of our constitution. I have no reason to believe it would make one whit of difference if the country was majority Muslim. I would have to think "Islam bad" to think this. I see no reason to think Islam is any better/worse than Christianity.

well, I don't know of any recent Christian Theocracies, but almost everywhere Islam becomes the majority, the country becomes a Muslim Theocracy governed by Sharia law.

[Cerebrum123]

No. The country has been majority Christian for a long, long time, and our country has survived it on the strength of our constitution. I have no reason to believe it would make one whit of difference if the country was majority Muslim. I would have to think "Islam bad" to think this. I see no reason to think Islam is any better/worse than Christianity.

You obviously haven't studied the teachings of the Quran and Hadith then.

[One Bad Pig]

No. The country has been majority Christian for a long, long time, and our country has survived it on the strength of our constitution. I have no reason to believe it would make one whit of difference if the country was majority Muslim. I would have to think "Islam bad" to think this. I see no reason to think Islam is any better/worse than Christianity.

For starters, I didn't say it would necessarily happen. However, where there is a Muslim majority, there is a decided preference for sharia law, and Islam - unlike Christianity - is decidedly theocratic. I don't have to think "Islam bad" to think this; I only need to look at historical and current Muslim-majority nations.

[carpedm9587]

well, I don't know of any recent Christian Theocracies, but almost everywhere Islam becomes the majority, the country becomes a Muslim Theocracy governed by Sharia law.

And none of them have the U.S. constitution or safeguards.

Christians have been insisting this is a "Christian country" for decades - maybe centuries - but our protections remain in place. They will survive a Muslim majority as well.

[carpedm9587]

You obviously haven't studied the teachings of the Quran and Hadith then.

Actually - I have. But check your local U.S. Muslims and ask them what they think. You might be surprised.

[carpedm9587]

For starters, I didn't say it would necessarily happen. However, where there is a Muslim majority, there is a decided preference for sharia law, and Islam - unlike Christianity - is decidedly theocratic. I don't have to think "Islam bad" to think this; I only need to look at historical and current Muslim-majority nations.

Outside of context - of course. The countries you are talking about weren't "taken over" by Muslims - Muslims have pretty much always been a majority force - and the countries have had a strong lean towards theocracy. The notion that this would befall a country that has long valued religious liberty is borderline ludicrous. As I said - if we have survived decades (centuries?) of Christians wanting to make this a "Christian nation," we would survive Islam as well.

Actually - we haven't completely "survived" the Christian phenomenon unscathed. After all - I still have to carry money around that says "in god we trust," I am confronted with "under god' every time I say the pledge of allegiance, I have to listen to someone pray when Congress goes into session, and the list goes on. So theists HAVE had some impact on making this a religious country - despite claims to "religious freedom."