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  • #31
    Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    The antipathy and undermining of this man always amazes me. Mueller has a history of being a straight-shooter who cannot be bought or influenced.
    About the only person with an even cleaner record than him was probably a man called Ken Starr. Look at what the Democrats and the MSM did to him. Much more recently there was Bret Kavanaugh who also enjoyed a spotless reputation. That is until he ended up in the left's crosshairs.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Nope. He has a checkered career, to put it charitably.

      Source: The 8 dirtiest scandals of Robert Mueller no one is talking about

      It was attorney Jeffrey Marty, who at American Lookout.com, compiled a long list of scandals casting shadows over Mueller. The following are a few of the better-known:

      • Some $12 billion in $100 bills was dispatched to the Iraq war theater, and vanished.
      • The IRS deliberately targeted Christian and conservative organizations to cause them trouble.
      • Fast and Furious saw the government traffic guns into the hands of Mexican cartel criminals.
      • The Department of Justice spied on AP reporters.
      • Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation got millions for speeches while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state.
      • Hillary Clinton dealt to Russia control of 20 percent of the uranium capacity inside the U.S.
      • Of course, there was Hillary Clinton’s private email server, and all the government records, including classified, that ended up there.
      • The HSBC money-laundering scandal.

      Marty pointed out that, despite his history, Mueller was sold, when handed the job, as “ramrod straight” and “utterly incorruptible.”

      “What stands out most during then-FBI Director Mueller’s term in office is the two-tiered system of justice, when obvious crimes and scandals involving government officials and private-sector elites were ignored or even covered up by the FBI. What Mueller failed to do to protect our country says more than anything he did. His level of aggressiveness in investigating our president is the exact inverse of how he acted when he was tasked with protecting America.”

      [URL="https://www.wnd.com/2017/08/the-8-dirtiest-scandals-of-robert-mueller-no-one-is-talking-about/"[/URL]

      © Copyright Original Source


      Then, of course, there are Mueller's questionable ties to a Russian oligarch...

      Source: Mueller may have a conflict — and it leads directly to a Russian oligarch

      In 2009, when Mueller ran the FBI, the bureau asked Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska to spend millions of his own dollars funding an FBI-supervised operation to rescue a retired FBI agent, Robert Levinson, captured in Iran while working for the CIA in 2007.

      Yes, that’s the same Deripaska who has surfaced in Mueller’s current investigation and who was recently sanctioned by the Trump administration.

      https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ssian-oligarch

      © Copyright Original Source


      Not to mention some of the shady stuff that has happened during the current investigation itself, such as Mueller intentionally withholding exculpatory evidence in order to coerce cooperation from witnesses, or filing indictments against "Russian trolls" for which he is unprepared to release the evidence.

      Funny how such a "ramrod straight" guy does so much stuff that can only be described as sketchy.
      I think I'll refrain from wasting my time responding. Suffice it to say that every item on your "list" that I am familiar with has long since been debunked. That you (and others) still cling to them is a testament to the bias. 'Nuff said.
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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      • #33
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        About the only person with an even cleaner record than him was probably a man called Ken Starr. Look at what the Democrats and the MSM did to him. Much more recently there was Bret Kavanaugh who also enjoyed a spotless reputation. That is until he ended up in the left's crosshairs.
        I cannot speak to Starr - I know little about his background. As for Kavanaugh... I can only say

        There was too much from both sides that had merit for me to come to a conclusion. So I am still in the "I have no idea" position.
        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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        • #34
          Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
          I think I'll refrain from wasting my time responding. Suffice it to say that every item on your "list" that I am familiar with has long since been debunked. That you (and others) still cling to them is a testament to the bias. 'Nuff said.
          Uh-huh...
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          Than a fool in the eyes of God


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          • #35
            Wake up dummies. Trump got rid of Sessions and installed Whiticker, a loyalist, for one reason only, and that's because he is pooping his pants over what he knows is coming from Muellar. He wants this guy to obstruct the investigation. What's it going to take to snap you Trumpster guys out of your cultic stupor?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Wake up dummies. Trump got rid of Sessions and installed Whiticker, a loyalist, for one reason only, and that's because he is pooping his pants over what he knows is coming from Muellar. He wants this guy to obstruct the investigation. What's it going to take to snap you Trumpster guys out of your cultic stupor?
              Jim - do you have ANY discussion mode other than "acerbic?"
              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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              • #37
                Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                Jim - do you have ANY discussion mode other than "acerbic?"
                Yup, I can be very sweet when I want to be carpe. But I don't always want to be. You have to take into account the acerbic nature of those I deal with here.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                  Jim - do you have ANY discussion mode other than "acerbic?"
                  He gets like this when his side is losing. Call it a coping mechanism.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    He gets like this when his side is losing. Call it a coping mechanism.
                    See, once again you make your ignorance obvious, OBP. You got trounced, loser!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Yup, I can be very sweet when I want to be carpe. But I don't always want to be. You have to take into account the acerbic nature of those I deal with here.
                      Congratulations - you have basically reduced yourself to the least common denominator...
                      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        He gets like this when his side is losing. Call it a coping mechanism.
                        His side is losing?

                        OBP - he may be acerbic - but his numbers are correct. Republicans saw significant losses in their dominance. Not enough loses, mind you, but significant ones - especially at state levels. Dems picked up seats in pretty much every sector except the U.S. Senate. That includes governorships, state AGs, state legislatures, and the U.S. house. Reps still dominate, but that domination was significantly eroded. Hopefully, 2020 will continue that erosion and bring our state and federal governments more into balance.
                        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                          His side is losing?

                          OBP - he may be acerbic - but his numbers are correct. Republicans saw significant losses in their dominance. Not enough loses, mind you, but significant ones - especially at state levels. Dems picked up seats in pretty much every sector except the U.S. Senate. That includes governorships, state AGs, state legislatures, and the U.S. house. Reps still dominate, but that domination was significantly eroded. Hopefully, 2020 will continue that erosion and bring our state and federal governments more into balance.
                          It wasn't nearly the wave they were hoping for. I agree, the Dems picked up significant gains in many places. I also agree that the Republicans had a significant edge in most places, and they were due for a correction.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                            Congratulations - you have basically reduced yourself to the least common denominator...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Wake up dummies. Trump got rid of Sessions and installed Whiticker, a loyalist, for one reason only, and that's because he is pooping his pants over what he knows is coming from Muellar. He wants this guy to obstruct the investigation. What's it going to take to snap you Trumpster guys out of your cultic stupor?
                              Of course you're correct. The firing of Sessions has quite clearly been done out of Donald Trump's fear, to try to stop the Trump Russia investigation before Democrats are sworn in for the new Congress. What’s he so frightened of? As if we didn’t know.
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                              • #45
                                So, for you pants-pooping progressives who are certain Whittaker is there to dispose of the Mueller investigation --

                                How will you respond if he does not actually do that? What if, at least for the next few months, he does nothing at all to halt or limit the scope or financing of the investigation, but DOES almost immediately honor the House subpoenas, DOES release the unredacted documents POTUS promised to declassify, DOES provide whatever it was (I can't recall at the moment) the House requested and Sessions refused? Perhaps even better, what if instead of limiting the Mueller investigation or its resources, he orders it expanded to include any potential Russian "collusion" by the Clinton campaign? (And of course, any other potential crimes discovered in the course of THAT investigation.)
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