Florida Recount in Senate Race?

[Mountain Man]

And here's where it gets ugly, because it will be "very clear" for one candidate to somebody it favors their candidate, but "very clear" for the other candidate to the person who favors the other candidate. This is what's known as "divining the intent" of the voter, which can get really messy.

Yep... happened in 2000. Ballots that were clearly punched for one candidate were "interpreted" as an intent to vote for the other candidate because of "dimpled" chads, and other nonsense.

A statewide hand recount is a stupendously bad idea.

[carpedm9587]

Try what again? I posted a story about Democrat officials deceptively altering forms in order to give the false appearance that they had been submitted by the deadline and then sending those forms across the state in the hopes of ginning up additional fraudulent Democrat votes that could potentially swing the election in their candidate's favor (and isn't it funny how they didn't extend this same courtesy to Republican voters? ). The story you posted was about a judge ruling in favor of the general legality of accepting "cure ballots" but said nothing about the fraud that was being perpetrated by Democrat poll workers.

Sorry...you're right. I was the one with the wrong association.

And the "additional fraudulent votes" claim you make is undermined by the very article you posted. From the article:

One Palm Beach Democratic activist said in an interview the idea was to have voters fix and submit as many absentee ballots as possible with the altered forms in hopes of later including them in vote totals if a judge ruled such ballots were allowed.

An odd kind of fraud this is - that requires a judge to approve before it can be executed.

[Mountain Man]

Sorry...you're right. I was the one with the wrong association.

And the "additional fraudulent votes" claim you make is undermined by the very article you posted. From the article:

One Palm Beach Democratic activist said in an interview the idea was to have voters fix and submit as many absentee ballots as possible with the altered forms in hopes of later including them in vote totals if a judge ruled such ballots were allowed.

An odd kind of fraud this is - that requires a judge to approve before it can be executed.

I took it to mean that if a judge ruled generally that "cure ballots" were acceptable then Democrats were planning to sneak the fraudulent ballots into the mix using the ruling as cover.

[rogue06]

So a conservative "watchdog" group that would not have wanted Franken seated is complaining about possible voter fraud. Color me surprised.

They are the ones who blew the whistle and as a result give you the cover to do what you so desperately want to do -- namely "do a carpe" (hand wave off any and everything you don't like).

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Doing a Carpe

The facts remain that a number of ineligible people did vote and what's more, IIRC, that was also one of those races that the ubiquitous box full of uncounted ballots suddenly appeared in a Democrat operative's trunk (I think they claimed that "somehow" it got under the spare tire and was missed).

[rogue06]

Yep... happened in 2000. Ballots that were clearly punched for one candidate were "interpreted" as an intent to vote for the other candidate because of "dimpled" chads, and other nonsense.

A statewide hand recount is a stupendously bad idea.

My favorite was how they tried to count votes for the Libertarian candidate as votes for Democrats under the pretext that voters were confused by the closeness in the spelling of Libertarian and Lieberman (the last name of Al Gore's running mate).

[Starlight]

Recounts are now complete. The Republican won.

Turns out the Republicans were full of it in their conspiracy fear-mongering about how Dems were doing recount fraud etc. As usual, I doubt Republicans will face any repercussions whatsoever for their blatant lies, and the posters in these forums who repeated them won't do any self-examination whatsoever before they repeat such behavior.

[Mountain Man]

Meanwhile, we know for a fact that Democrats attempted to get a number of fraudulent ballots added to the total by deceptively altering dates on the forms before mailing them across the state (this courtesy was, of course, extended exclusively to Democrat voters):

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/new...ts/2009178002/

That Broward election officials "accidentally" mixed invalid ballots with valid ones:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...221452655.html

And that over 2000 ballots in Broward county remain unaccounted for (incidentally, "losing" ballots is the best way to cover up attempted fraud):

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/po...117-story.html

So it's not that fraud wasn't attempted, it's just that with the country watching them like a hawk, it became nearly impossible to pull off.

In other news Brenda Snipes just resigned, claiming that she "served her purpose". Apparently her "purpose" was to make a pig's breakfast of every major election she supervised:

https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-el...erved-purpose/

[Mountain Man]

I just wish that some of the other "miraculous" come-from-behind Democrat wins in other states had been subjected to the same intense scrutiny.

[Sparko]

Recounts are now complete. The Republican won.

Turns out the Republicans were full of it in their conspiracy fear-mongering about how Dems were doing recount fraud etc. As usual, I doubt Republicans will face any repercussions whatsoever for their blatant lies, and the posters in these forums who repeated them won't do any self-examination whatsoever before they repeat such behavior.

You mean the Republican won despite the many attempts by liberals to cheat in the election? Or at least their incompetence?

[Cow Poke]

Recounts are now complete. The Republican won.

Turns out the Republicans were full of it in their conspiracy fear-mongering about how Dems were doing recount fraud etc. As usual, I doubt Republicans will face any repercussions whatsoever for their blatant lies, and the posters in these forums who repeated them won't do any self-examination whatsoever before they repeat such behavior.

I just love it that you are so incredibly unbiased in your observations. You should try to get a job with CNN.

[JimL]

You mean the Republican won despite the many attempts by liberals to cheat in the election? Or at least their incompetence?

No, republicans won in Florida despite their attempt to undermine democracy and shut down the process before all the votes were counted due to their fear that they might lose in a fair election. Might as well face it, republicans don't believe in democracy, they believe in undermining it.

[Cow Poke]

No, republicans won in Florida despite their attempt to undermine democracy and shut down the process before all the votes were counted due to their fear that they might lose in a fair election. Might as well face it, republicans don't believe in democracy, they believe in undermining it.

Sour grapes, and all that.

[Mountain Man]

A blue wave? More like a blue wave of liberal tears!

[JimL]

Sour grapes, and all that.

No sour grapes on this side, Florida has to get its election act together, but it's you republican Trump supporters got trounced nationally.

[Cow Poke]

No sour grapes on this side, Florida has to get its election act together, but it's you republican Trump supporters got trounced nationally.

At this point, I'm just going to have to assume you're a pathological liar, Jim. I am not a Republican, and my "support" for Trump pretty much ended when I left the polling place.