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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMore like a dead on target assessment."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSorry to have to remind you Rogue but the truth is not relative to who is telling it, so even if it was "a dead on target assessment" that would not change the fact that what was provided was an ad hominem. It did not deal with the message and you also failed to do so in this post. Are you capable of dealing with the actual content of the message or are you once again going to focus solely on who "the others" are, what they did that was worse and stuff like that?That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostIt's opinion, not truth.
What you tried to get around with an ad hominem is an opinion on what the truth is. Anyone who cares about truth and believes it exists independently of the messenger deals with the content and not the person. You failed to do so."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd your statement is also an opinion and not the truth, or?
What you tried to get around with an ad hominem is an opinion on what the truth is. Anyone who cares about truth and believes it exists independently of the messenger deals with the content and not the person. You failed to do so.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSorry, but there were no facts in that piece. Just opinions on how things SHOULD be. Try again."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt is an opinion on how things should be based on the opinion that certain moral standards exist. Do you agree or not and what reasons would you provide? So far all you have done is to go for the ad hominem and make claims like "there were no facts in that piece" or the obvious "it is opinion" which neither proves it wrong or right. You have got to have something of substance. Try again.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou can't prove an opinion right or wrong on its face. It's an opinion. From a government perspective, scripture is silent on how a government should behave, so his piece is unmitigated crap."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou can't prove an opinion right or wrong on its face. It's an opinion. From a government perspective, scripture is silent on how a government should behave, so his piece is unmitigated crap."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYou can give reasons for holding an opinion I would hope.
Or do you simply base your opinions on the fact that they are just opinions?
If you read the piece you would know it is primarily concerned with the actions of Christians
and not with the government perspective
so your statement that it is crap is not even based on its actual content and main purpose.
Try to actually deal with the content, no ad hominems and none of the obvious "it is opinion" statements. Try again.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostI don't think that's accurate if a government is in moral opposition to moral truths of Scripture.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostOf course I could.
I try to ground my opinions in some measure of fact. I see no facts in this piece. Every opinion is slanted toward the liberal Christian interpretation of social justice, which is in no way the Christian response to a government.
I've read it 3 times now. And it is littered with leftist propaganda and bastardizations of Christian concepts.
Yeah... "Vote the Repubs out" is not government perspective...
It's leftist post-modern pseudo-Christian crap.
When there is some content to actually address, and not the typical claptrap from heretics, I'll engage it."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostScripture does not tell a government how to govern, especially one that the left loves to remind us is a secular government.
2. If you mean that, as a consequence to 1, as Christians, we shouldn't oppose the violation of the moral imperatives of scripture by government, then no; otherwise, the pro-life stance itself is simply a statement of preference.
The issue in the op-ed is whether or not we should oppose other moral violations just as vigorously. I disagree with the op-ed to the extent that I think he's simply switching out one set of moral issues for another set of moral issues."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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