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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    Well yeah, I guess, if you think the bible is a stupid thing.


    CP, socialism was their philosophy of governance, that's what they did.

    And there is, it's how they lived, the bible is setting an example for you. Not that I agree with that kind of socialism myself, which is a bit more like communism, I would say. But I do agree with government that values the dignity of human life over the republican philosophy that says I got mine, to hell with the rest of you.
    Wow.
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    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
      Like I said, christians rationalize away whatever they don't like about christianity.
      It’s so entertaining to watch fundy atheist try to tell Christians that the Bible actually agrees with them, be schooled on their weird interpretation, and than call it a ‘rationalization’.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
        Well yeah, I guess, if you think the bible is a stupid thing.


        CP, socialism was their philosophy of governance, that's what they did.

        And there is, it's how they lived, the bible is setting an example for you. Not that I agree with that kind of socialism myself, which is a bit more like communism, I would say. But I do agree with government that values the dignity of human life over the republican philosophy that says I got mine, to hell with the rest of you. We liberals call it democratic socialism nowadays.
        Another Jimmy rant, so tell us, if you value life so much, why are you pro abortion?
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          So you finally admit it's not a "biblical teaching" regarding civil government, but a voluntary action of the New Testament Church. Maybe there's hope for you after all!
          Stopped clock and all that.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Jim, just saying the same stupid thing over and over doesn't make it true. You and Starlight have yet to establish any kind of biblical foundation for government based socialism.

            In order for us to "rationalize away" something, there has to be something to "rationalize away".
            Yup. They keep taking verses that say how we as individuals should behave and twisting and distorting them into a claim that they call for the government to forcibly take things from one person and give it to another.

            I can't help but notice neither little jimmy or star addressed post #100 where I made short work of their nonsense including the leftist mantra of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Wonder why that is.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Well yeah, I guess, if you think the bible is a stupid thing.
              No. He's calling your willfully deliberate misrepresentation a stupid thing. A big difference that even you should be able to comprehend.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                No. He's calling your willfully deliberate misrepresentation a stupid thing. A big difference that even you should be able to comprehend.
                Jim knows this. He's just trolling at this point.
                Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  Well yeah, I guess, if you think the bible is a stupid thing.
                  Obviously, you're conceded the point and resorted to Jackassery, and obviously, Starlight has descended to your level.

                  Good job, guys!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Well, to quote Jesus, if you want to be perfect give all your money to the poor.

                    Also, to quote me, be less whiny and defensive.
                    He told the rich guy to do that because he wanted him to realize that his money was keeping him from being saved. There are plenty of rich people in the bible who didn't have to give everything to the poor.

                    Not to mention Jesus said, "GIVE" and not "TAKE from this man and give to the poor"

                    Socialism is all about judging that some people have too much and taking it away from them to give it to people they think deserve it, while pocketing a large chunk for "administration"

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                    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                      It’s so entertaining to watch fundy atheist try to tell Christians that the Bible actually agrees with them, be schooled on their weird interpretation, and than call it a ‘rationalization’.
                      What kinda surprises me, though, is that Starlight is falling into JimL's level of stupidity.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Stopped clock and all that.
                        Unfortunately, he's not smart enough to know that's what he just said.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Yup. They keep taking verses that say how we as individuals should behave and twisting and distorting them into a claim that they call for the government to forcibly take things from one person and give it to another.

                          I can't help but notice neither little jimmy or star addressed post #100 where I made short work of their nonsense including the leftist mantra of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Wonder why that is.
                          Kinda like how the crowd reacted to Stephen in Acts 6-7 -- the plugged their ears and gnashed on him with their teeth. Perhaps THAT is a 'biblical teaching' we should adopt!
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post


                            It's not what I want to do or not do. I just think, from my studies, that Evangelicals hold inaccurate biblical interpretations on almost all major issues. I think in general they are so firmly committed to the views they have been taught by others that there is an extremely strong resistance on their part to acknowledging that virtually none of those ideas are actually taught by the bible if it is carefully studied rather than cherry-picked as they prefer to do.
                            this is where that Dunning-Kruger syndrome kicks in, Star. You always think you are an expert in Christianity while showing everyone you really don't understand it at all.

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Yup. They keep taking verses that say how we as individuals should behave and twisting and distorting them into a claim that they call for the government to forcibly take things from one person and give it to another.

                              I can't help but notice neither little jimmy or star addressed post #100 where I made short work of their nonsense including the leftist mantra of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Wonder why that is.
                              No, what I'm saying is that you, as a christian, have a choice in what kind of government you want to live under, you can choose to be governed as the christians chose to govern themselves, or you can choose to be hypocrites. As republicans, you've chosen to be hypocrites. What do you think Jesus and the early christians would have thought concerning healthcare for all from a government perspective?

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                              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                No, what I'm saying is that you, as a christian, have a choice in what kind of government you want to live under, you can choose to be governed as the christians chose to govern themselves,
                                There was that one specific incident in Acts where there was an immediate need, and the Church chose to take care of the needs of their Church family separate and apart from the civil government. We, as a Church, still do that today.

                                This has absolutely NOTHING to do with civil government. Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament regarding how Christians should live, never taught it, let alone mentioned it.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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