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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    No, that's just what you want to believe socialism is, that way you don't have to feel as guilty with respect to your own greed. Socialism isn't about judging some people to have to much, it's about insuring that all people have enough. "To each according to their need." That comes first, then people can have as much money as fulfills their desire.
    as an ideal, maybe. But every single country that has implemented it has made everyone poor, except those at the top. And even here on tweb we see you socialists talking about taxing the rich more and taking money away from people who worked for it and giving it to people who have not. "Rich" is a profane word to socialists. And when you have stripped the rich and taken away their companies, and made everyone depend on the government for a job, it's too late to realize that your freedom has been taken and everyone is poor and has no choice or say in the matter. You have run out of other people's money.

    I find it hilarious that you condemn Trump for being friendly with North Korea and other socialist countries and recognize how totalitarian they have become, yet still want that for the USA. You guys are completely brain dead.

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    • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      I'm shocked, shocked, that you would say such a thing.
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      Bet you were expecting this instead

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        I always find it ironic how those who refuse to listen to Him and scream about separation of Church and State whenever someone quotes Scripture when talking about social policy suddenly turn around and seek to try to use Him to support something they want.
        Who are you talking about in particular? Could you give some examples? And are you sure they "try to use Him". Aren't they rather trying to make the point that those who claim to listen to Him are not actually listening to what he actually says?
        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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        • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          as an ideal, maybe. But every single country that has implemented it has made everyone poor, except those at the top. And even here on tweb we see you socialists talking about taxing the rich more and taking money away from people who worked for it and giving it to people who have not. "Rich" is a profane word to socialists. And when you have stripped the rich and taken away their companies, and made everyone depend on the government for a job, it's too late to realize that your freedom has been taken and everyone is poor and has no choice or say in the matter. You have run out of other people's money.

          I find it hilarious that you condemn Trump for being friendly with North Korea and other socialist countries and recognize how totalitarian they have become, yet still want that for the USA. You guys are completely brain dead.
          No, actually the U.S. has implemented it to an extent and most people are very happy with those aspects of socialism. The problem is with the electoral system which the rich and powerful are allowed to manipulate in a way that makes them richer at the expense of the good of the whole of society. Minimum wage, healthcare, social security, as an ideal would be no problem if all the wealth were not allowed to be hoarded by the greedy at the top.
          Last edited by JimL; 12-15-2018, 10:02 AM.

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          • Meanwhile, the goofy notion that government based socialism can be justified by "biblical teaching" has yet to be proven.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • HOWEVER, we could take the biblical example of one of God's most trusted men - Joseph - being put in charge of the entire welfare of Egypt.....
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Meanwhile, the goofy notion that government based socialism can be justified by "biblical teaching" has yet to be proven.
                They're not even really trying to do so any more

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  They're not even really trying to do so any more
                  Nope, just resorted to NONSENSE!!!!!!!! (please add that infinity thing)
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                    Who are you talking about in particular? Could you give some examples? And are you sure they "try to use Him". Aren't they rather trying to make the point that those who claim to listen to Him are not actually listening to what he actually says?
                    Left-wing non-believers and scoffers. There are several instances of precisely this on this thread.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Actually, Jimmy may be on to something!

                      In the (cough, sputter) "biblical teaching" on 'socialism', the Apostles were entirely in charge of distribution, so.....
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Nope, just resorted to NONSENSE!!!!!!!!∞
                        FIFY (just use Alt + 236 on your keyboard)

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          No, actually the U.S. has implemented it to an extent and most people are very happy with those aspects of socialism. The problem is with the electoral system which the rich and powerful are allowed to manipulate in a way that makes them richer at the expense of the good of the whole of society. Minimum wage, healthcare, social security, as an ideal would be no problem if all the wealth were not allowed to be hoarded by the greedy at the top.
                          This is why I thank God every day that someone like you is not in charge.

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                          • So, in this "biblical teaching" (cough, sputter) on "socialism", it actually gets expanded to include seven men who were men of faith who were "full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom" to administrate.

                            So, yeah, I'm warming up to the idea of socialism based on this "biblical teaching".
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Left-wing non-believers and scoffers. There are several instances of precisely this on this thread.
                              And yet you don't provide a single example that fits what you mentioned. Feel free to provide one so we can discuss whether it actually fits your criteria. What I have seen is rather that people point out how Christians point to "context" in order to escape parts of the message Jesus actually had.
                              "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                FIFY (just use Alt + 236 on your keyboard)
                                You do it so much betterer!
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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