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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIs it just me but does anyone else notice how they always paraphrase what is said rather than quote?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat, and removing it from any context that would show how misguided they are.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOK, you're up to bat! Show where there's any instruction for us to sell our homes and give it all to the Apostles, or that this in any way could be construed as a "biblical teaching".
"Sell your possessions and give to the poor." - Luke 12:33
For extra points, show where that has anything whatsoever to do with civil government.
"Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities" - Rom 13:1
For a pastor, you don't seem to know your bible very well.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostContext, starlight."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYeah, for some inexplicable reason they always somehow fail to cite where what they are paraphrasing was said. You'd almost think that they didn't want anyone checking for themselves to see if they are mischaracterizing or misrepresenting what was said.
But, for the moment if you're ignorant, that's okay, there's google to help you with that. Type the quote or segments of the paraphrase into google and it will very likely come up with the verse and a link to it."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." - Mat 19:21
"Sell your possessions and give to the poor." - Luke 12:33
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's" - Mat 22:21
"Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities" - Rom 13:1
For a pastor, you don't seem to know your bible very well.
The context was pretty much what was happening in this thread: Guy comes to Jesus and says "I think I'm doing pretty great by following all the rules, what more do you think I need?"
just as CP had said to me. The reply of both Jesus and me was to give all the money away. And CP and the guy in the bible both rejected that answer because they loved their money and didn't want to give it away.
Jesus was dealing with an INDIVIDUAL about his own PERSONAL responsibility. He was not establishing a foundation for civil government.
Pretty analogous if you ask me.
But, please, try again.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDo you not know your bible well enough to recognize a quote and look it up? I suggest you read the bible a bit more often and in different translations so you develop a working biblical knowledge so you can recognize quotations or paraphrases.
But, for the moment if you're ignorant, that's okay, there's google to help you with that. Type the quote or segments of the paraphrase into google and it will very likely come up with the verse and a link to it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI know, slow day, so you have to harder."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAlright. I think Evilgelicals are wrong about nearly all aspects of biblical teaching, from abortion to salvation to faith and works to marriage to sin to Jesus' ministry and the gospel to the attributes of God.
They pretty much misinterpret and misunderstand the bible across the board in every aspect of their theology.
I think they are nigh on 100% wrong about what the bible says with regard to almost every issue that matters.
Star, that's no excuse for taking scripture out of context and trying to make it say something it does not say. There is no biblical support for a civil government forcing the redistribution of wealth. ZERO.
And your disingenuous implication that I'm ignorant of Scripture simply because I challenged your misuse of it is beneath you. I've been in this business for nearly 5 decades -- I've heard repeatedly these allegations of "support" from the Bible for socialism. I knew exactly the scriptures both you and Jimmy were perverting in order to try to make it sound like we were being disobedient to Christ. There's no "there" there.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've been in this business for nearly 5 decades -- I've heard repeatedly these allegations of "support" from the Bible for socialism."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt's sad you're still this ignorant about biblical teachings after all this time. But I guess I'm not that surprised.
So, calm yourself down a bit, and enlighten me on what "biblical teaching" there is for government based socialism.
Because there isn't any. And simply accusing me of being "ignorant" does ZERO to back up your false claim!
Try again.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostDo you not know your bible well enough to recognize a quote and look it up? I suggest you read the bible a bit more often and in different translations so you develop a working biblical knowledge so you can recognize quotations or paraphrases.
But, for the moment if you're ignorant, that's okay, there's google to help you with that. Type the quote or segments of the paraphrase into google and it will very likely come up with the verse and a link to it.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I apologize - I overlooked these references...
Originally posted by Starlight View Post"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's" - Mat 22:21
"Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities" - Rom 13:1
And Rogue already schooled you on the "if a man doesn't work he shouldn't eat" teaching from the Bible. That wasn't addressed to an individual - it was addressed to the Church. In fact, it wasn't just a teaching, but a "commandment".
2 Thes 3:10 ESV - For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAlright. I think Evilgelicals are wrong about nearly all aspects of biblical teaching, from abortion to salvation to faith and works to marriage to sin to Jesus' ministry and the gospel to the attributes of God. They pretty much misinterpret and misunderstand the bible across the board in every aspect of their theology. I think they are nigh on 100% wrong about what the bible says with regard to almost every issue that matters.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou still don't get it do you? I just wanted you to provide cites so that anyone could see how you're ripping things out of context and misrepresenting them to prop up your claims. As I already noted in post #100 we are told to take individual responsibility not try to force others to do what we should be doing ourselves.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI always find it ironic how those who refuse to listen to Him and scream about separation of Church and State whenever someone quotes Scripture when talking about social policy suddenly turn around and seek to try to use Him to support something they want.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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