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  • #61
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
    Given the continued use of the term "Drama Queen" in these threads to describe opposition to Trump as being an 'over the top' reaction to what in their current state of mind appears to be simply boorish behavior, I would say there was no intent to reference anything beyond that. IOW, he's saying your the 'Queen of drama queens'.

    Jim
    Wow

    Actually, it has nothing to do with his opposition to Trump, and everything to do with his opposition to all things Christian. What earns him the title of Drama Queen, in my book, is his anti-Christian bigotry.

    In fact, it was his whining and wailing about Christian aid workers giving out Bibles that revealed, once again, his extreme anti-Christian bigotry.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
      Given the continued use of the term "Drama Queen" in these threads to describe opposition to Trump as being an 'over the top' reaction to what in their current state of mind appears to be simply boorish behavior, I would say there was no intent to reference anything beyond that. IOW, he's saying your the 'Queen of drama queens'.
      It's just CP's go-to insult. I assume it's projection on his part. It usually has little to do with anything happening in the thread.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        It's just CP's go-to insult.
        It's merely an observation on my part.

        I assume it's projection on his part.
        And this is yours.

        It usually has little to do with anything happening in the thread.
        As is true of this post.


        Hey Ox - ya got yerself some wonderful friends here!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post


          Hey Ox - ya got yerself some wonderful friends here!
          qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #65
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            qui cum canibus concumbunt cum pulicibus surgent
            Well, politics DO make strange bedfellows.




            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Ya know, I really find it difficult to believe that you guys can't comprehend what Marcon was saying. Perhaps if you actually go back and read his speech you won't need someone to explain to you what he meant by nationalism and how it differs from patriotism. Tell me OBP, do you think that one can be a patriot without being a nationalist, can you love your country without thinking that it amongst all countries is all that matters? I think you all know what Marcon meant, you just like to play dumb for some reason.
              In other words, you got nothin'. As I figured.

              Go on, keep flailing.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Perhaps this is your Drama Queen way of demonstrating how to be nice?
                This is my way of saying that only an uneducated ignoramus (AKA a Trump voter) would be foolish enough to deny Palestinian claims to Jerusalem. From their perspective it ranks as the third most holy place in Islam, because of Muhammad's night flight to Jerusalem as depicted in the Koran.

                http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/...opr/t125/e1752

                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                Giving an Urban Dictionary style "definition" of only one of the words in "Drama Queen" would be an excellent example of "a person given to often excessively emotional performances or reactions".
                So dishonest, is this a natural characteristic of Evangelicals or is it only when you are trying to defend the indefensible? The word you used was "queen" which in the Merriam Webster Dictionary is defined: "8. slang, often disparaging : a male homosexual especially : an effeminate one".

                https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/queen

                This is in keeping with your: "Your Drama Queenery, ma'am" crap in the other thread.

                Interesting that your worst insults imply homosexuality.
                Last edited by Tassman; 11-18-2018, 07:31 PM.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  This is my way of saying that only an uneducated ignoramus (AKA a Trump voter) would be foolish enough to deny Palestinian claims to Jerusalem. From their perspective it ranks as the third most holy place in Islam, because of Muhammad's night flight to Jerusalem as depicted in the Koran.

                  http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/...opr/t125/e1752
                  Again
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  I believe that I more than adequately demonstrated that Al Aqsa could not have been Jerusalem back on post #40.

                  I should also add that in surah 30:3 Palestine is referred to as "the nearest land," "the neighboring land" or "a land close by"[1] making Jerusalem as an unlikely location for the "furthest mosque."

                  Interestingly, early Muslims didn't associate Jerusalem with al-aqsa ("the furthest mosque"). In the earliest Islamic writings, such as Omar's (the second caliph) visit shortly after its capture by Muslim forces in 638 A.D., it is not once associated with al-aqsa which is indeed strange if it was such a holy site. And tellingly none of the inscriptions from the Qur'an on the mosaic frieze inside the Dome of the Rock include surah 17:1 which is unfathomable if that was the destination of Muhammad's fabled "Night Journey" and where he traveled to heaven from. The fact of the matter is that many of the earliest Muslims understood al-aqsa in a figurative or allegorical sense or even as a place in heaven itself[2].

                  Furthermore, Jerusalem is mentioned in Jewish scripture (the Old Testament) 823 times[3], while in contrast there is only one reference to it in the Qur'an (surah 17:7) and that is only in reference to the Jewish temple there. It is never alluded to in any Islamic prayers. It was never a capital of a Muslim state or even a cultural or scholarly center. In fact, a better case can be made for Cordoba, the capital of Umayyad Spain, being a holy city for Muslims than Jerusalem.










                  1. Mohammad Mahmoud Ghali, Professor of Linguistics and Islamic Studies, Al-Azhar University (regarded as Islam’s most prestigious university), and founder of the faculty of languages and translation there, translated "adna al-ard" as meaning "In the more adjacent (i.e., more easy to reach; the Levant) (part) of the earth."

                  2. check out H. Busse's "Jerusalem in the story of Muhammad's night journey and ascension" in Jerusalem Studies in Arabic and Islam (1991 - Volume 14) available on Dialnet (you need to be a member but it is free)

                  3. 669 times explicitly along with 154 mentions of Zion which usually means Jerusalem.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    So dishonest, is this a natural characteristic of Evangelicals or is it only when you are trying to defend the indefensible? The word you used was "queen" which in the Merriam Webster Dictionary is defined: "8. slang, often disparaging : a male homosexual especially : an effeminate one".

                    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/queen

                    This is in keeping with your: "Your Drama Queenery, ma'am" crap in the other thread.
                    Tassy, you're simply proving me right. The "QUEEN" was in the same sentence, and referring to, DRAMA. Hence, a DRAMA QUEEN. IF you are a homosexual, that's your business - but it is NOT necessary for somebody to be a homosexual to be a DRAMA QUEEN.

                    You are, in effect, pitching a DRAMA QUEEN rant while complaining I'm accusing you of being a DRAMA QUEEN.

                    Interesting that your worst insults imply homosexuality
                    MORE interesting that you would ASSUME that being accused of being a DRAMA QUEEN necessitates you being a homosexual.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                      In other words, you got nothin'. As I figured.

                      Go on, keep flailing.
                      I have a clue, because instead of concerning myself with this or that interpretation of a particular word in order that I miscontrue the overall intent I actually listened to the statement as a whole. Nationalism in the sense that Macron conveyed it meant that the nationalism, like Trump, Hitler, etc. practice it, is when the interests of that nationalists country, comes at the expense of all others. It's not just love of country, not just patriotism, it's a philosophy that says we are exceptional, we are powerful, screw the rest of you.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Ya know, I really find it difficult to believe that you guys can't comprehend what Marcon was saying. Perhaps if you actually go back and read his speech you won't need someone to explain to you what he meant by nationalism and how it differs from patriotism. Tell me OBP, do you think that one can be a patriot without being a nationalist, can you love your country without thinking that it amongst all countries is all that matters? I think you all know what Marcon meant, you just like to play dumb for some reason.
                        He probably meant that when Trump uses Nationalism, it secretly means he is a member of the White Supremacists, even though the word Nationalism doesn't mean that at all.

                        And who the heck is Marcon [sic]?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          I have a clue, because instead of concerning myself with this or that interpretation of a particular word in order that I miscontrue the overall intent I actually listened to the statement as a whole. Nationalism in the sense that Macron conveyed it meant that the nationalism, like Trump, Hitler, etc. practice it, is when the interests of that nationalists country, comes at the expense of all others. It's not just love of country, not just patriotism, it's a philosophy that says we are exceptional, we are powerful, screw the rest of you.
                          Your attempt to manufacture a "complete difference" is duly noted. Macron can be perhaps forgiven because he's not working in his native tongue.
                          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            He probably meant that when Trump uses Nationalism, it secretly means he is a member of the White Supremacists, even though the word Nationalism doesn't mean that at all.
                            The only supremacy Trump is really interested is the 'Trump Supremacy'. But to this end he is successfully courting the latent racism within the US with the use of 'loaded' Nationalist jargon, plus the overt White Supremacists as David Duke et al will be the first to tell you.
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Again

                              I should also add that in surah 30:3 Palestine is referred to as "the nearest land," "the neighboring land" or "a land close by"[1] making Jerusalem as an unlikely location for the "furthest mosque."

                              Interestingly, early Muslims didn't associate Jerusalem with al-aqsa ("the furthest mosque"). In the earliest Islamic writings, such as Omar's (the second caliph) visit shortly after its capture by Muslim forces in 638 A.D., it is not once associated with al-aqsa which is indeed strange if it was such a holy site. And tellingly none of the inscriptions from the Qur'an on the mosaic frieze inside the Dome of the Rock include surah 17:1 which is unfathomable if that was the destination of Muhammad's fabled "Night Journey" and where he traveled to heaven from. The fact of the matter is that many of the earliest Muslims understood al-aqsa in a figurative or allegorical sense or even as a place in heaven itself[2].

                              Furthermore, Jerusalem is mentioned in Jewish scripture (the Old Testament) 823 times[3], while in contrast there is only one reference to it in the Qur'an (surah 17:7) and that is only in reference to the Jewish temple there. It is never alluded to in any Islamic prayers. It was never a capital of a Muslim state or even a cultural or scholarly center. In fact, a better case can be made for Cordoba, the capital of Umayyad Spain, being a holy city for Muslims than Jerusalem.










                              1. Mohammad Mahmoud Ghali, Professor of Linguistics and Islamic Studies, Al-Azhar University (regarded as Islam’s most prestigious university), and founder of the faculty of languages and translation there, translated "adna al-ard" as meaning "In the more adjacent (i.e., more easy to reach; the Levant) (part) of the earth."

                              2. check out H. Busse's "Jerusalem in the story of Muhammad's night journey and ascension" in Jerusalem Studies in Arabic and Islam (1991 - Volume 14) available on Dialnet (you need to be a member but it is free)

                              3. 669 times explicitly along with 154 mentions of Zion which usually means Jerusalem.
                              I should add that Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah, the son of Ali ibn Abi Talib, the first Imam and the fourth Caliph as well as cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad, emphatically denied that Muhammad was ever in Jerusalem much less the rock on which the Dome of the Rock mosque would later be constructed, saying that only "one person ever put his foot on the rock, namely Abraham."

                              Finally none of the Hadiths considered sahih ("reliable"), which contain extensively detailed accounts of Muhammad's life, ever mention him journeying outside the Arabian Peninsula, much less traveling to Jerusalem.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                I should add that Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah, the son of Ali ibn Abi Talib, the first Imam and the fourth Caliph as well as cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad, emphatically denied that Muhammad was ever in Jerusalem much less the rock on which the Dome of the Rock mosque would later be constructed, saying that only "one person ever put his foot on the rock, namely Abraham."

                                Finally none of the Hadiths considered sahih ("reliable"), which contain extensively detailed accounts of Muhammad's life, ever mention him journeying outside the Arabian Peninsula, much less traveling to Jerusalem.
                                Myth, vision or an actual occurrence the night journey to Jerusalem is widely believed in Islamic tradition to have occurred...in much the same way Paul traveled in a vision to the third heaven. Both are best explained as a pious myth.
                                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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