Interaction Problem Involving the Soul and Body

[JimL]

"probable?" "no good reason to think otherwise" That isn't "strong evidence" Tassy.

You mentioned "strong evidence" that the mind does not survive. You haven't provided ANY evidence. You made the positive claim that there was STRONG EVIDENCE. so lets see it. Links to such evidence would be appreciated.

I'd say that there being no good reason to believe in fairies is "strong evidence" for there being no such thing as fairies. A lack of evidence, is evidence, as far as negative claims are concerned.

[Sparko]

I'd say that there being no good reason to believe in fairies is "strong evidence" for there being no such thing as fairies. A lack of evidence, is evidence, as far as negative claims are concerned.

But there is good reason to believe in life after death.

But I don't see any of the strong evidence Tassman mentioned that there is no mind surviving death. He made the claim. Now he just has to show it. His rules, remember?

[Tassman]

"probable?" "no good reason to think otherwise" That isn't "strong evidence" Tassy.

You mentioned "strong evidence" that the mind does not survive. You haven't provided ANY evidence. You made the positive claim that there was STRONG EVIDENCE. so lets see it. Links to such evidence would be appreciated.

The evidence is, as JimL says, The same applies to faith-based claims of life after death.

But there is good reason to believe in life after death.

There is no good reason to "believe in life after death".

[Sparko]

The evidence is, as JimL says, The same applies to faith-based claims of life after death.



There is no good reason to "believe in life after death".

There are reasons good enough that most people believe in life after death, Tassman. You just mean not good enough for you.

And you have not shown any strong evidence, which you claimed to have, that the mind/soul doesn't survive death. "no good reason to believe otherwise" is not strong evidence FOR your belief.

Just admit you don't have any strong evidence.

[JimL]

There are reasons good enough that most people believe in life after death, Tassman. You just mean not good enough for you.

The reasons are based on beliefs, such as the religious belief in invisible souls that fly away when the body dies. There are no fact based reasons to believe in life after death.

And you have not shown any strong evidence, which you claimed to have, that the mind/soul doesn't survive death. "no good reason to believe otherwise" is not strong evidence FOR your belief.

You need first to show that this mind/soul is an existing thing before you can ask others to prove it survives death.

Just admit you don't have any strong evidence.

I admit, I have no strong evidence of an existing immaterial soul. Btw, neither do you.

[Sparko]

The reasons are based on beliefs, such as the religious belief in invisible souls that fly away when the body dies. There are no fact based reasons to believe in life after death.

You need first to show that this mind/soul is an existing thing before you can ask others to prove it survives death.

I admit, I have no strong evidence of an existing immaterial soul. Btw, neither do you.

Most beliefs are indeed based on reasons which use evidence to come to a conclusion. If someone finds the evidence good enough, then they believe. There can be no "facts" because how can you objectively measure where a mind goes after death? Other than that mind reporting back to you that it was alive after the body was dead? and that means the body has to come back to life for you to talk to that mind.

Also we have eye witness reports of God revealing that there is life after death. Jesus proved it to us even.

So there is a lot of evidence for life after death. So that is why people believe it.

There are ZERO facts that prove there is no life after death. There is no "strong evidence" that there is no life after death, which Tassman claimed. Feel free to prove otherwise.

[Tassman]

There are reasons good enough that most people believe in life after death, Tassman. You just mean not good enough for you.

And you have not shown any strong evidence, which you claimed to have, that the mind/soul doesn't survive death. "no good reason to believe otherwise" is not strong evidence FOR your belief.

I think that no good reason to believe in something is a pretty strong reason not to believe it. .

[Sparko]

No. Why would I fear just ceasing to exist?

I think that no good reason to believe in something is a pretty strong reason not to believe it. .

Where is your strong EVIDENCE Tassman? You claimed you had it. Let's see it.

[seer]

No. Why would I fear just ceasing to exist?

Right, all my years as an agnostic I never really worried about death. The dead know and feel nothing. But as a Christian I have more reservations since a judgement is coming...

[Tassman]

No. Why would I fear just ceasing to exist?

The fear of death is a commonplace human trait and the belief that eternal souls/minds exist is common currency among religions...not so much outside of religion...to overcome this fear.

Where is your strong EVIDENCE Tassman? You claimed you had it. Let's see it.

[Roy]

Most beliefs are indeed based on reasons which use evidence to come to a conclusion.

On this planet, most beliefs are based on being told things.

[Sparko]

The fear of death is a commonplace human trait and the belief that eternal souls/minds exist is common currency among religions...not so much outside of religion...to overcome this fear.

so then why aren't you scared into believing in God?


So the strong evidence is that there is no evidence?

[Tassman]

so then why aren't you scared into believing in God?

So the strong evidence is that there is no evidence?

There is a lot of evidence that the soul/mind is totally dependent on the brain. If the brain is damaged so is the mind, if the brain ceases to exist all indications are that the mind does too. There is no substantive evidence this is not so.

[Sparko]

that is a non-sequitur. If all people are afraid of death and that causes them to believe in God, then why don't you? Could it be that your simplistic assertion is incorrect?

There is a lot of evidence that the soul/mind is totally dependent on the brain. If the brain is damaged so is the mind, if the brain ceases to exist all indications are that the mind does too. There is no substantive evidence this is not so.

Again, you claimed STRONG EVIDENCE that the mind doesn't survive death. Please provide it.

[Tassman]

that is a non-sequitur. If all people are afraid of death and that causes them to believe in God, then why don't you? Could it be that your simplistic assertion is incorrect?

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Again, you claimed STRONG EVIDENCE that the mind doesn't survive death. Please provide it.