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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I am living in the world where Tassman is arguing I should believe in Global Warming simply because "97% of climate scientists" do.
    I've followed this thread since the beginning and no one anywhere has made the bogus argument you are claiming. You're a fine one to complain about the Trumpian big lie when you're the only one engaged in the practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    This is an outrageous misrepresentation. Nowhere have I argued that the only reason to believe in global warming is because the majority of scientists accept the evidence of global warming. The scientists present the evidence, to which I have repeatedly linked, and you have at no point argued why the evidence may be incorrect other than your fatuous, anti-science mantra: "scientists sometimes get it wrong". You know, like all the requisite scientific knowledge to get a man to the moon etc...or are you referring to Evolution?.

    STILL waiting for you to explain why you are so skeptical of global warming given that if true, as is probable, the consequences for the planet and our families will be disastrous? Why are you so unconcerned?
    I noticed your subtle addition of "the only reason" to the argument in order to try to wiggle out of your previous statements.

    I never said "only" - I was merely arguing against your repeated claims that the "consensus" was reason enough to believe in global warming. And as long as you keep trying to repeat the lie that you didn't make that argument or that you supplemented your argument with links to studies, I will continue to repeat your own words against you:


    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    So, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tassman View Post
    Whatever biases some scientists may have, for whatever reason, are irrelevant in the face of undoubted fact that Earth's climate is warming.

    “Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position”

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
    I've followed this thread since the beginning and no one anywhere has made the bogus argument you are claiming. You're a fine one to complain about the Trumpian big lie when you're the only one engaged in the practice.
    see above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    see above.
    I did. Still no one ever made the silly strawman argument you keep claiming. Why you keep repeating your lie is the real mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
    I did. Still no one ever made the silly strawman argument you keep claiming. Why you keep repeating your lie is the real mystery.
    It's a fairly standard Evangelical attempt to discredit scientific methodology, as was the OP.

    As you note, I have never claimed that mere "consensus" was reason enough to believe in global warming...although it is a strong reinforcement of the available evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I never said "only" - I was merely arguing against your repeated claims that the "consensus" was reason enough to believe in global warming. And as long as you keep trying to repeat the lie that you didn't make that argument or that you supplemented your argument with links to studies, I will continue to repeat your own words against you:
    Neither of those extracts say that the consensus is "reason enough to believe in global warming".
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
    I did. Still no one ever made the silly strawman argument you keep claiming. Why you keep repeating your lie is the real mystery.
    I quoted him making that argument. Twice. I substantiated my claims, now substantiate your accusation of me being a liar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Neither of those extracts say that the consensus is "reason enough to believe in global warming".
    It was the only reason he gave in each instance, so it is obvious he considered that to be "enough"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I quoted him making that argument. Twice. I substantiated my claims, now substantiate your accusation of me being a liar.
    No you didn't because he never made that argument. He merely pointed out that the evidence has convinced the large majority of the world's climatologists anthropogenic climate change is real and is a threat. That is NOT the same as saying the evidence is correct because the scientists accept it as you keep falsely claiming.

    I know you're not dumb enough to confuse the two idea so that leaves willful misrepresentation on your part. There, it's substantiated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I am living in the world where Tassman is arguing I should believe in Global Warming simply because "97% of climate scientists" do.
    I do not believe that Tassman made this claim, but from my perspective it is a good reason to believe in Global Warming, but an exception would be if you are more qualified than the scientists,
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