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‘Alarming’ Study Claiming Global Warming Heating Up Oceans Based on Math Error
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAnd those records show many cycles of warming and cooling that were happening long before men came along or could have any influence over the climate.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostThey have been going on about this since the 1980s and we should all be underwater or baked to death by now.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostI can't tell that the climate around here has changed much at all in the last 40 years. I remember having winters when I was a kid where I could run around in shorts. I can remember summers that were so hot we couldn't go outside. I have experienced the same and the opposite many times in the intervening decades.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut I have noticed that the newspapers, the politicians, and many scientists trying to promote AGW will indeed selectively choose to claim a particularly hot summer or unusual event like more hurricanes in a year or more wildfires, and claim it is evidence of AGW, and even when questioned about unusually cold winters, still claim that it is evidence of AGW.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut I have also noticed that they have subtlety changed the terminology to "Climate Change" over the last decade or so in order to cover all bases.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17781884
Climatic change: are we on the brink of a pronounced global warming?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBecause I don't see any STRONG evidence. I just see weak correlations and chicken little claims of doom that never materialize.
But, even if the evidence was not so strong you still haven’t explained your remarkable indifference to the possible catastrophic changes to the planet which will affect us all. Still waiting!
Again, that is merely an assertion that the wildfires are caused by global warming. Exactly what I said. They use such things as "proof" of global warming and then when we have a very bad winter or a series of them, that is called "weather, not climate" or they have the audacity to claim that is further proof of AGW.
And, who is “they” making these claims...I’ve never heard these claims except from climate-change deniers in mocking mode.Last edited by Tassman; 12-14-2018, 03:59 AM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Bret View PostThe thing is the there is no other source for the current warming. The sun is moribund, we're not in any odd cycle astronomically, etc. The only thing we can point to is atmospheric CO2 increasing from 320ppm to 405ppm due to human activity.
Ah yes, the unnamed "they" who say so many things. I'm not aware of any climate scientist or geophysicist saying that "we should all be underwater or baked to death by now". Have you got a citation?
The weather where Sparko is =/= global climate. I can tell you that winters in north Texas have become like extensions of fall, which itself is more like an extension of summer. Twenty years ago it would start cooling at least by State Fair time, but now it's warm right up until December. But these anecdotes don't matter. The long term global data are what matter and they point to the earth warming.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostNeither are bald assertions.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYes, your objections show selective bias. If he mirrored your concern he would have resolved your issues of confirmation bias.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postthe paper referred to in the OP for one. Al Gore and various other MSM sources that constantly popularize Global Warming.
But, even if the evidence was not as strong as it clearly is, you still haven’t explained your remarkable indifference to the possible catastrophic changes to the planet which will affect us all. Why is this?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Republicans, wake the frig up. What is wrong with your brains? How many studies do you need to see before you stop acting like ignorant fools?
http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/23/climat...-bn/index.html
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHow many studies do you need to see before you stop acting like ignorant fools?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostSo, what about the ninety-seven percent of climate scientists, who agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide, which have issued public statements endorsing this position.
But, even if the evidence was not as strong as it clearly is, you still haven’t explained your remarkable indifference to the possible catastrophic changes to the planet which will affect us all. Why is this?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRepublicans, wake the frig up. What is wrong with your brains? How many studies do you need to see before you stop acting like ignorant fools?
http://www.cnn.com/2018/11/23/climat...-bn/index.html“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostJesus will save them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostScience by accepting the amassed scientific facts.
you keep putting the cart before the horse and calling that science.
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