�Alarming� Study Claiming Global Warming Heating Up Oceans Based on Math Error

[Tassman]

So a wildfire is evidence of global warming but a blizzard is just weather?

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal what with Global temperature rises, Warming oceans, Shrinking ice sheets, Glacial retreat, Decreased snow cover, Sea level rise, Declining Arctic sea ice and an increasing number of Extreme events such as the record disastrous forest fires in California and Australia.

[shunyadragon]

So a wildfire is evidence of global warming but a blizzard is just weather?

Neither a wildfire nor a blizzard are evidence of global warming.

[Cow Poke]

Neither a wildfire nor a blizzard are evidence of global warming.

But the still small voice.....

[shunyadragon]

But the still small voice.....

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/11/world/climate-change-arctic-report-card-2018-wxc/index.html

Unparalleled warmth is changing the Arctic and affecting weather in US, Europe

(CNN)The Arctic is experiencing a multi-year stretch of unparalleled warmth "that is unlike any period on record," according to the 2018 Arctic Report Card, a peer-reviewed report released Tuesday morning from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, an agency within the United States Department of Commerce.

The report states that human-caused climate change is transforming the Arctic, both physically through the reduction of sea ice, and biologically through reductions in wildlife populations and introduction of marine toxins and algae.

The report is yet another study from part of the US government indicating that climate change is real and having a profound impact, despite denials from the President and senior members of his Administration.

The year 2018 was the Arctic's second-warmest year on record behind 2016. The top five warmest years have all occurred since 2014.

The year 2018 was the Arctic's second-warmest year on record behind 2016. The top five warmest years have all occurred since 2014.

Temperatures in the Arctic are warming more than twice as fast as the overall planet's average temperature, with temperatures this year in the highest latitudes (above 60 degrees north) coming in 1.7 degrees Celsius (3.1 degrees Fahrenheit) above the 1981-2010 average. These were the second warmest (behind 2016) air temperatures ever recorded during the Arctic year, which runs from October through September to avoid splitting the winter season.

The five years since 2014 have been warmer than any other years in the historical record, which goes back to 1900. Although Arctic temperatures have been subject to wild swings back and forth through the decades due to natural variability, they have been consistently warmer than average since 2000 and at or near record since 2014, the report states.

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[Cow Poke]

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/11/world/climate-change-arctic-report-card-2018-wxc/index.html

Unparalleled warmth is changing the Arctic and affecting weather in US, Europe

(CNN)The Arctic is experiencing a multi-year stretch of unparalleled warmth "that is unlike any period on record," according to the 2018 Arctic Report Card, a peer-reviewed report released Tuesday morning from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, an agency within the United States Department of Commerce.

The report states that human-caused climate change is transforming the Arctic, both physically through the reduction of sea ice, and biologically through reductions in wildlife populations and introduction of marine toxins and algae.

The report is yet another study from part of the US government indicating that climate change is real and having a profound impact, despite denials from the President and senior members of his Administration.

The year 2018 was the Arctic's second-warmest year on record behind 2016. The top five warmest years have all occurred since 2014.

The year 2018 was the Arctic's second-warmest year on record behind 2016. The top five warmest years have all occurred since 2014.

Temperatures in the Arctic are warming more than twice as fast as the overall planet's average temperature, with temperatures this year in the highest latitudes (above 60 degrees north) coming in 1.7 degrees Celsius (3.1 degrees Fahrenheit) above the 1981-2010 average. These were the second warmest (behind 2016) air temperatures ever recorded during the Arctic year, which runs from October through September to avoid splitting the winter season.

The five years since 2014 have been warmer than any other years in the historical record, which goes back to 1900. Although Arctic temperatures have been subject to wild swings back and forth through the decades due to natural variability, they have been consistently warmer than average since 2000 and at or near record since 2014, the report states.

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You apparently totally missed the reference.

But the still small voice.....

[Sparko]

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal what with Global temperature rises, Warming oceans, Shrinking ice sheets, Glacial retreat, Decreased snow cover, Sea level rise, Declining Arctic sea ice and an increasing number of Extreme events such as the record disastrous forest fires in California and Australia.

So a wildfire is evidence of global warming but a blizzard is just weather?

[Sparko]

Neither a wildfire nor a blizzard are evidence of global warming.

Is your name Tassman?

[shunyadragon]

Is your name Tassman?

Of course not, but there are no rules that I cannot respond to post.

[Sparko]

Of course not, but there are no rules that I cannot respond to post.

I was asking Tassman specifically because he was the one who made the statement I was questioning.

[Tassman]

So a wildfire is evidence of global warming but a blizzard is just weather?

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal what with Global temperature rises, Warming oceans, Shrinking ice sheets, Glacial retreat, Decreased snow cover, Sea level rise, Declining Arctic sea ice and an increasing number of Extreme events such as the record disastrous forest fires in California and Australia.

[David Hayward]

Now, let's look at who it was correcting the error in the article. Was it "peer review"? Or was it a lone internet blogger who noticed a problem right off the bat?

Why didn't the "peer review" concept work?

Two words: Confirmation Bias

It's GOOD to have skeptics around to check your work.

In a passage in Ben Goldacre's collection of newspaper column essays, collected into the book, "I Think You'll Find It's a Bit More Complicated Than That", he describes the real process of peer review as not being that cursory pre-publication check which normally bears the name, it occurs post-publication when your colleagues (including your friends) gleefully rip into it and tear it apart, pointing out all the methodological errors, the mistaken or inadequate assumptions, the mistaken (and alternative) interpretations and any limitations on the applicability of the conclusions which the researchers didn't spot and point out themselves. (And probably more types of error or inadequacy, I'm going by my recollection of the book.) So peers finding errors after publication is the real, the best peer review and shouldn't be overly concerning, it would be more worrying if that didn't happen.

It's GOOD to have skeptics around to check your work, and those skeptics should routinely be your fellow researchers in your field.

What I do find concerning is that it wasn't a colleague, friend or fellow researcher who gleefully ripped into it to expose the error. Plainly the (rather idealised and ideal) peer review system described by Goldacre fell down, the colleagues failed to look critically at their colleagues' work.

[Sparko]

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal what with Global temperature rises, Warming oceans, Shrinking ice sheets, Glacial retreat, Decreased snow cover, Sea level rise, Declining Arctic sea ice and an increasing number of Extreme events such as the record disastrous forest fires in California and Australia.

Why are you unable to just answer my question: So a wildfire is evidence of global warming but a blizzard is just weather?

And by the way Antartica's ice has been GROWING over the last several decades.

[Cow Poke]

In a passage in Ben Goldacre's collection of newspaper column essays, collected into the book, "I Think You'll Find It's a Bit More Complicated Than That", he describes the real process of peer review as not being that cursory pre-publication check which normally bears the name, it occurs post-publication when your colleagues (including your friends) gleefully rip into it and tear it apart, pointing out all the methodological errors, the mistaken or inadequate assumptions, the mistaken (and alternative) interpretations and any limitations on the applicability of the conclusions which the researchers didn't spot and point out themselves. (And probably more types of error or inadequacy, I'm going by my recollection of the book.) So peers finding errors after publication is the real, the best peer review and shouldn't be overly concerning, it would be more worrying if that didn't happen.

It's GOOD to have skeptics around to check your work, and those skeptics should routinely be your fellow researchers in your field.

What I do find concerning is that it wasn't a colleague, friend or fellow researcher who gleefully ripped into it to expose the error. Plainly the (rather idealised and ideal) peer review system described by Goldacre fell down, the colleagues failed to look critically at their colleagues' work.

Yeah, that.

[JimL]

Yeah, that.

Yeah, so, High Priests of the order of the warming planet, set me straight.

[Cow Poke]

Yeah, so, High Priests of the order of the warming planet, set me straight.

When you finally stop dodging the question of whether you still support NAMBLA and defend them at every turn.

And, again, I'm sorry I triggered you with the sarcasm.