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  • Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send mails about government business

    Very interesting:

    Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules, according to people familiar with a White House examination of her correspondence.
    And it is getting even better:

    Some aides were startled by the volume of Ivanka Trump’s personal emails — and taken aback by her response when questioned about the practice. She said she was not familiar with some details of the rules, according to people with knowledge of her reaction.
    Read the entire article. It does give a balanced and interesting presentation of what went on.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f9d_story.html
    "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

  • #2
    She should suffer the same consequences as Hillary Clinton!!! But, to a lesser degree, of course, because Ivanka didn't have her own personal server.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      She should suffer the same consequences as Hillary Clinton!!! But, to a lesser degree, of course, because Ivanka didn't have her own personal server.
      Lock her up? Nah, it seems we are not finding ourselves in the same category as we did with Hillary. As usual things are a little muddy right now with sources giving contradictory impressions but it appears to be serious though not Hillary-serious.
      "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Charles View Post
        Lock her up?
        Is she in jail, Charles? I said "suffer the same consequences" not be subject to the same rhetoric.

        Nah, it seems we are not finding ourselves in the same category as we did with Hillary. As usual things are a little muddy right now with sources giving contradictory impressions but it appears to be serious though not Hillary-serious.
        I'm actually surprised you didn't do your infamous Whataboutism Dance. And if it's not "Hillary-serious", and Hillary suffered no consequences...
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Is she in jail, Charles? I said "suffer the same consequences" not be subject to the same rhetoric.
          I hope you did note by the question marking and the laughing face that I was not being serious?

          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          I'm actually surprised you didn't do your infamous Whataboutism Dance. And if it's not "Hillary-serious", and Hillary suffered no consequences...
          I didn't point to whataboutism since you were not trying to take focus away by pointing to what others did. It was a different situation. I think your perspective is a little narrow if you think Hillary did not suffer any consequences. She may not have suffered any legal consequences but I feel quite certain it was one of many things she would have wished she had not done. And it may be one of many causes that she is not your president.
          "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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          • #6
            ...according to people familiar with a White House examination of her correspondence.
            Yes, very interesting. This is totally like how the Democrats handled Clinton, right?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Charles View Post
              Very interesting:



              And it is getting even better:



              Read the entire article. It does give a balanced and interesting presentation of what went on.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f9d_story.html
              This is just whataboutism.

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              • #8
                Since her use was before she received her briefings, she can not be held culpable.
                That's what
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  This is just whataboutism.
                  Welcome, net-nanny. Could you please explain what it is whataboutism about?
                  "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Charles View Post
                    Welcome, net-nanny. Could you please explain what it is whataboutism about?
                    They are trying to say "what about Ivanka? she used private email too!"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Charles View Post
                      I hope you did note by the question marking and the laughing face that I was not being serious?
                      I was hoping so, but I appreciate the confirmation.

                      I didn't point to whataboutism since you were not trying to take focus away by pointing to what others did. It was a different situation. I think your perspective is a little narrow if you think Hillary did not suffer any consequences. She may not have suffered any legal consequences but I feel quite certain it was one of many things she would have wished she had not done.
                      Charles, that there was ZERO legal consequence is not even a question. That she may have wished she didn't do it is not a "consequence" - and it's not that she did it, but that she got caught.

                      And it may be one of many causes that she is not your president.
                      It's possible that it may have been a contributing factor, but I sincerely doubt that anybody was was "for Hillary" would have been dissuaded because the Right Wing Conspiracy picked on her about her 'wedding and recipe' emails.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                        Since her use was before she received her briefings, she can not be held culpable.
                        Are you sure that is really your opinion? Should she even handle government business before she received her briefings and wouldn't you say there are certain basics security wise that you are expected to know if you work at the highest political level?
                        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          They are trying to say "what about Ivanka? she used private email too!"
                          There may be some saying that or thinking along those lines. I think it is a bit more muddy than that. I wouldn't say she did the same thing based on what we know so far.
                          "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                          • #14
                            Even more interesting is this buried six-paragraphs below the attention-grabbing headline:

                            In a statement, Peter Mirijanian, a spokesman for Lowell, acknowledged that the president’s daughter occasionally used her private email before she was briefed on the rules, but he said none of her messages contained classified information.

                            [...]

                            Mirijanian said Ivanka Trump turned over all her government-related emails months ago so they could be stored permanently with other White House records.

                            And he stressed that her email use was different from that of Clinton, who had a private email server in the basement of her Chappaqua, N.Y., home. At one point, an archive of thousands of Clinton’s emails was deleted by a computer specialist amid a congressional investigation.

                            “Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted,” Mirijanian said.

                            So... much ado about nothing it would seem.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              Even more interesting is this sentence buried six-paragraphs below the attention-grabbing headline:

                              In a statement, Peter Mirijanian, a spokesman for Lowell, acknowledged that the president’s daughter occasionally used her private email before she was briefed on the rules, but he said none of her messages contained classified information. [...] Mirijanian said Ivanka Trump turned over all her government-related emails months ago so they could be stored permanently with other White House records.

                              [...]]

                              Mirijanian said Ivanka Trump turned over all her government-related emails months ago so they could be stored permanently with other White House records.

                              And he stressed that her email use was different from that of Clinton, who had a private email server in the basement of her Chappaqua, N.Y., home. At one point, an archive of thousands of Clinton’s emails was deleted by a computer specialist amid a congressional investigation.

                              “Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted,” Mirijanian said.

                              So... much ado about nothing it would seem.
                              But that's no excuse! LOCK HER UP!!!!
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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