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Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send mails about government business

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  • #61
    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
    Seriously.

    Correct. As I stated above, because she is not an employee, elected official, or political appointee, the worst that can happen to her for mishandling FOUO data is a verbal reprimand.

    Because, apparently it was just her and her family's schedule, which she shared with her nanny. She's never been involved with government information handling, so why would she have worried about her own schedule?

    what she did is not a crime.
    Bill, after advising her father in an unofficial capacity, Ivanka was appointed "Advisor to the President," and made a government employee, on March 29, 2017 - about 2 months after he took office.
    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

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    • #62
      Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
      Bill, after advising her father in an unofficial capacity, Ivanka was appointed "Advisor to the President," and made a government employee, on March 29, 2017 - about 2 months after he took office.
      Interesting - NYT says she will become a Federal Employee, but unpaid.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
        I am not surprised that so many on the right are rallying to her defense...
        Not "rallying to her defense" as much as shooting down any notion that this is morally equivalent to Hillary's crimes and that Republicans should be just as incensed at Ivanka as we are at Hillary. It's like the difference between forgetting to pay for an item at the checkout and grand larceny.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #64
          Given half the country spent a whole year yelling "HILLARY'S EMAILS" at the top of their voices, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for Ivanka doing the same thing. They should throw the book at her.

          Lock her up.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
            Given half the country spent a whole year yelling "HILLARY'S EMAILS" at the top of their voices, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for Ivanka doing the same thing. They should throw the book at her.

            Lock her up.
            It's like you didn't even bother to read the thread.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              It's like you didn't even bother to read the thread.
              Remember that dog food commercial where the little chick is eating the dog's food, and muttering "there's a dog? I don't see a dog!"
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Given half the country spent a whole year yelling "HILLARY'S EMAILS" at the top of their voices, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for Ivanka doing the same thing. They should throw the book at her.

                Lock her up.
                Yes, because the two cases are so freakin' similar!
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Given half the country spent a whole year yelling "HILLARY'S EMAILS" at the top of their voices, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for Ivanka doing the same thing. They should throw the book at her.

                  Lock her up.
                  "The Ivanka Trump email situation is EXACTLY like Hillary Clinton’s, except for the unsecured server, classified information, destruction of 30,000 subpoenaed records, bleaching the hard drives, then smashing them all with hammers.” —Twitter satirist @hale_razor
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Proportionality. Hillary wasn't punished. 33,000 emails - she should have known better, signed a document saying she knew better, actually used a private server (shows intent), tried to hide (remember BleachBit?), lied......


                    Come on, Carpe, REALLY?
                    and sent CLASSIFIED emails. AND was an actual high ranking cabinet member.

                    and destroyed phones...

                    I would say that if Ivanka used gmail, gmail has a lot better security than Hillary's server did. They said her server's security was a joke.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Given half the country spent a whole year yelling "HILLARY'S EMAILS" at the top of their voices, there is absolutely ZERO excuse for Ivanka doing the same thing. They should throw the book at her.

                      Lock her up.
                      Hillary first.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        and sent CLASSIFIED emails. AND was an actual high ranking cabinet member.

                        and destroyed phones...

                        I would say that if Ivanka used gmail, gmail has a lot better security than Hillary's server did. They said her server's security was a joke.
                        It would have been a joke if the server had any security at all. I have little doubt that foreign governments were reading Hillary's emails before she even knew they were in her inbox.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          It would have been a joke if the server had any security at all. I have little doubt that foreign governments were reading Hillary's emails before she even knew they were in her inbox.
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                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Most of the family is "unpaid," as far as I know. Why on earth would anyone care about a few hundred thousand when they are in a position to make millions based on their office? And there is "paid" and there is "paid." I am pretty sure that Trumps regular excursions to his properties have cost the U.S. government more in not yet 2 years than all eight years of any prior president. We also have no clue just how the Trump family is being enriched by their various offices because there is no access to tax records. We have certainly seen widespread corruption on this front from various appointees.

                            Drain the swamp? From where I sit, Trump just managed to replace the old denizens with hungry and even less scrupulous new ones.
                            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                              MDrain the swamp? From where I sit, Trump just managed to replace the old denizens with hungry and even less scrupulous new ones.
                              Because Ivanka naively emailed a schedule to a nanny.

                              Yeah, OK.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                Because Ivanka naively emailed a schedule to a nanny.

                                Yeah, OK.
                                Right...that's exactly what I said...



                                (for the ironically/sarcastically challenged - that was a bit of sarcasm)
                                The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                                I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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