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Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send mails about government business
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Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIIRC she claimed that she [Hillary] had forgotten it [her training in the handling of government communications].Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostYou seem to be missing the point where they said "many of them in violation of federal records rules". And those have been explained in the article as family schedules. FOUO at best. Heck, you could have access to their domestic schedules with a FOIA request.
And the security is alarmingly low:
After she told White House lawyers she was unaware that she was breaking any email rules, they discovered that she had not been receiving White House updates and reminders to all staffers about prohibited use of private email, according to people familiar with the situation.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYou seem to be missing this:
And the security is alarmingly low:That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI know but they could do better. Or?That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Charles View PostYep. Very good idea. It is starting to happen in part of Europe - at least to some degree. Feel free to join us.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSince she is not an elected official, government employee, or political appointee, she can discuss government policies with whomever she pleases on whatever media she pleases. She is not making policy, so she isn't bound by any of the policy discussion rules. Heck, I work for the government and I discuss government policy on TWeb. It isn't against the law. The only "official business" she discussed was her and her family's official travel schedule.
Using personal emails for government business could violate the Presidential Records Act, which requires that all official White House communications and records be preserved as a permanent archive of each administration. It can also increase the risk that sensitive government information could be mishandled or hacked, revealing government secrets and risking harm to diplomatic relations and secret operations.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostToo simplified and you know it. We all know she has a great influence on the president and discusses political topics with him. You don't discuss all details of your job in here and I guess no poster in here would share all information about their jobs on tweb. And there is a difference between discussing policy and government business:
There are many different opinions on what was in those mails. I dislike how fast you conclude on it.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostIf you have read what has been posted so far and made this post, you must be criminally stupid.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOK, so let's punish her the same way we punished Hillary, but to an understandably lesser extent.
And this was AFTER her father campaigned on the "email scandal." So she needed a "briefing" to make it absolutely clear to her, after multiple "lock her up" rallies, that using a private email system for government business was not acceptable?
I come back to "extremely negligent" or "extremely stupid." (I used the term "criminally" before, but meant it as an expression meaning "extremely" - not as an actual measure of legality, for all of the reasons cited in the previous thread).
But I have to admit that I am not surprised that so many on the right are rallying to her defense, and so many on the left rallying to her conviction. Consistency is not exactly the hallmark of the far right or far left.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm not sure why "to a lesser extent."
Come on, Carpe, REALLY?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostBut I have to admit that I am not surprised that so many on the right are rallying to her defense, and so many on the left rallying to her conviction. Consistency is not exactly the hallmark of the far right or far left.
Carpe - Hillary was a SENIOR DIPLOMAT - a SECRETARY OF STATE, a CABINET member! Ivanka is a family member.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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