Cars being set on fire during demonstrations seems to be a recurring thing in France. I've heard about it every year for the past ten years. Its nothing new.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe US has its own history of violent revolution and violent civil war. Lots of countries have had major violence at one time or another. Your random attack on atheism is irrelevant and bizarre.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostCars being set on fire during demonstrations seems to be a recurring thing in France. I've heard about it every year for the past ten years. Its nothing new.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
and when the government lines their pockets with the people's money and claims it is for their own good, that is also a good way to tick people off.
Carrots always work better than sticks.Last edited by Sparko; 12-06-2018, 09:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostCarrots always work better than sticks.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Carrots always work better than sticks.
Next time you make kabobs instead of using a stick try whittling a carrot down and use it instead (of course you still need something to poke holes through the food first)
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Looks like they are not giving up, they know violence works...
Live: Tear gas, mass arrests as new Yellow Vest protests spread in Paris
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Originally posted by seer View PostLooks like they are not giving up, they know violence works...
Live: Tear gas, mass arrests as new Yellow Vest protests spread in Paris
https://www.france24.com/en/20181208...i-macron-riotsThat's what
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThey are idiots. They want Macron gone, but want a MORE liberal leader who will naturally increase taxes, completing the circle for them to continue to chase...
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostFWIU it is more complicated than that. The disturbances have spread well outside of Paris (pretty much nationwide) and in more rural areas much of the opposition comes from conservatives.
Macron is regarded as terrible on both environmental issues and on helping the poor. His proposed fuel tax was regarded as a token gesture on climate change issues that was absolutely detrimental to the poor (who spend a relatively high proportion of their money on fuel), so was hated across the board.
I saw an interview with one of the liberal groups protesting, and they were calling for not merely Macron's resignation, but constitutional change in France to a parliamentary system (parliamentary systems are widely regarded by modern political scientists as having proven to be the best systems of government, and France currently has a rather awkward and unwieldy presidential system somewhat like the US does). I don't know how likely this is to actually happen, but clearly the French people at the moment are not happy with their recent governments, as Macron's own election was a situation where all the traditional political parties got panned and the people weren't sure what they wanted but knew they didn't want what they'd been having previously, and now it's clear they hate Macron even more, so dunno where they'll turn next. France has a history of overthrowing its system of govt when the people are really unhappy, so I guess we might see that?Last edited by Starlight; 12-08-2018, 06:16 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYeah there seems to be lots of different perspectives and groups among the protesters, both conservative and liberals. What unites them is opposition to Macron, whose approval rating is in the 20s.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, what's your take on why he got elected in the first place?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'm not too well informed on the details of that,
but my understanding was that there has been some growing dissatisfaction with some of the major parties in France and voters were starting to look elsewhere, and then in the lead up to the election the major parties had some further public scandals which really put the voters off, leading them to go for novel options. So it came down to two outsider candidates, Le Penn (social conservative, anti-immigration, economic centrist) and Macron (social liberal, economic right-winger) and they went Macron. Now that they've gotten to know him, they hate him with a passion.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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